Has far as the actual hardware the competition can easily buy a 950 and reverse engineer the product. For the consumer the concern is if production mods are being made to correct an issue than all of the consumers should be notified.

TPS

tps123,

It is quite clear from the variety of posts that we have seen about this issue over the months that this is not a widespread issue. Most people simply do not have this problem. It seems to be exacerbated in cases where a lot of variables stack up - efficient speakers, high input gain on an amplifier, untreated room, good ears.

If it is a widespread problem that negatively affected everyone, I have every confidence that Outlaw would do the right thing. However, evidence suggests that it is only a practical problem on a minority of systems. I just happened to be the first one to discover the problem.

As I said, you should give Outlaw a call if you are as concerned as you seem about this issue. They're really nice people and would probably welcome the opportunity to talk with you about your concerns. I am not in a position to comment on how Outlaw will handle this problem for the remainder of production units; I simply do not have the answers.

Looks like Outlaw has developed a better 950 that Prefect says has a greatly improved noise floor, compared to his original 950.


[This message has been edited by Will (edited June 07, 2002).]

Will, I think you should call or email Outlaw and see if they can get you one of the modified 950 since you are also experiencing hiss. Hopefully that will clear it up.

Prefect- THANK YOU!!

I can ask... Do you know if the changes they made to your latest unit will now be included in future manufacturing runs? (I'm guessing/hoping "yes" ...)

Just the news I have been waiting for, Prefect. Thank you very much. I am very much in the same boat as you, very effecient speakers, very good ears, and no expensive power conditioning equipment. I was kind of laying in the weeds waiting to hear some news of something that would help. Interestingly, I also get EXACTLY 54 dB on my Radio Shack meter at the speaker. I can not only hear that at my listening position 10 ft. away, but anywhere in the room. I don't really care what I can hear with my ear pressed to the speaker, as amazingly enough, I find I don't spend much time listening to my system that way. But if I can get it quiet at my seat, hallelujah! I will contact the Outlaws poste haste. Thanks again. Looks like there is relief in sight.

Prefect,
I also want to thank you and the Outlaws for so diligently pursuing this issue. As far as quality control, the Outlaws aggressive response to this situation shows a real concern for the quality of units that they put out. Pertaining to future units, it's only logical that the modifications done to lower the noise floor would be included on future production runs. Current production runs? I doubt it. Costs too much to retool unless it's just a hardware insertion. Of course, this is just conjecture on my part. It's nice to know that when I do receive my 950, I'm currently enjoying the 1050, it will have been a very well-engineered product with a conscientious company to back it up.
(Do you think all of this *ss-kissing will move me up on the list?)
'Till next time,
Mix

I am new to home theater, but wouldn't a Monster Power filter help? (like HTS 5000)

Chim:

In some cases, a power filter WOULD help, but I think the folks who are experiencing hiss problems with the 950 have something else going on.



[This message has been edited by bobliinds (edited June 18, 2002).]

I stopped in at the local high-end audio shop yesterday to see if they had anything new. They had a Rotel 1066 last week that I wanted to listen to, but they had already sold it. They did have a Reference 30 on hand, however. They had it running through a B&K 7270, with a Proceed DVD player as the source. Speakers were B&W Nautilus 803/HTM2/SCM1 - VERY nice system. Guess what? There was a very noticeable hiss to the system. I would suspect that if the room was closed off from the rest of the store, the hiss would be noticeable 10ft away at the listening position. That was of course with no program material playing. Once the movie was running, it was spectacular, and I didn't notice the hiss anymore. Just thought I'd share the experience. Glad to hear that Outlaw seems to have their hiss problem solved.

Jason