If I had known then what I know now...

I could have bought a 1050 and been enjoying DD and DTS for the past 7 months!

With things still up in the air, is anyone else (who maybe lke me have only Pro-Logic) considering just picking up a 1050 for $500 and waiting out the storm by enjoying digital home theater? Then, whenever it is, that the 950 is "in-stock" and "fixed", sell the 1050 for a modest loss and get the 950 for the "family discount" price of $850.

Hello Apple,
I've had a 1050 for about 3 months now while waiting for the 950. I highly recommend going this route. Yes, I expect to take a loss, but I've gotten great use and enjoyment from the unit. I enjoy it so much that I'm considering keeping it as a secondary unit if I can swing the financing when my 950 is ready. It's a quality piece of gear and only makes me anticipate the 950 more. BTW, I'm running the 1050 with external amps and using the 1050 to power my center channel. It works great, but I'll have to buy yet another amp when the 950 gets here. Probably why I'll have to sell the 1050. Good Luck.
Mix

I did that exact thing back in December... only mistake I made was letting it go early because I thought the 950 was "right around the corner". I got in some HT time but still ended up waiting months upon months for the 950.

So the moral is, if you do this, DON'T guarantee the unit to your buyer by a particular date and DON'T let it go until you've got a 950 on your doorstep.

It was still worth it, though. It also gave me a chance to see the build quality of a typical Outlaw product before sending them the money for the 950/755.

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Matthew J. Hill
matt@idsi.net

I am a 1050 owner and have mulled over the choice to go with seperates, but I'm just too darn happy with the 1050. It's plenty loud enough and I don't think the pro logic 2 will buy me anything since I get a digital signal with regular TV. I have 6 channels of top quality sound and I don't see needing any more power until I get a [much] bigger room. The 1050 is so choice. It's like anything else: you pay $9 for a bottle of wine and it is pretty good, you get a $25 bottle and it's really good, but the $500 bottle isn't _that_ much better than the $25 unless you're a snob.
Fletch

Well, I did the same thing and received my 1050 just before the 4th. However, I'm not actually holding out for the 950; I'm holding out for the upper line preamp.

With all the uncertainty about DVI and Firewire and with my patience growing thin, I just decided to upgrade my old equipment in a cost effective manner.

I've been very pleased with my 1050 so far and I'm sure it will suffice until I "feel the need" to upgrade again.

One thing's for sure, the July newsletter pretty much changed the course of my action plan.

I was initially considering going the 950/770 or 950/755 route (my first separates), and was waiting on the sidelines to see when the 950 ships.

With the announcement of a new matching amp for the 950 and it being on hold I decided to go for the new combo later this year and get a 1050 for now.

I'm sure the new amp will be rated somewhere along 110-130W pc - and honestly who needs 200W pc and a 80 lbs. heavy unit that barely fits into your cabinet?

I think the new amp will be a great addition to their product line.
-wolf

Yes indeed. The combo of it with the 950 will probably sell like gangbusters! As their last email says:

I had originally thought they'd make a receiver based on the 950. But the approach the Outlaws are taking is even better since it allows for the upgradability of separates, at a low price, like a receiver.

Their new, 7 channel amp should make that possible. Congratulations, Outlaw!

The big question is how much power it will have and in particular, if it has more honest power than the amplifiers built inside the Denon 5803 receiver and the top of the line Pioneer receiver.


[This message has been edited by Will (edited July 10, 2002).]

While no other DPL2 pre/pro can touch the 950's price, and while the 950 is a new design, the 1050 on the other hand is getting long in the tooth. There are other receivers that can do more (like DPL2 which the 1050 doesn't) for about the same money as the 1050.

will, I agree with you except for a few minor points.
1. You obviously don't get the discount with any other brand and if you're considering purchasing a 950 anyway, why not? You can sell a used 1050 for around 375-400 in about an hour on Audiogon.com. So the loss isn't going to be substantial.
2. I spent several months researching receivers before I decided on the 1050. Even with the lack of DPL-II and component switching you'd be hard pressed to find a receiver in this price range that has better quality (build and sound) Though the better manufacturers are catching up.
Just my opinion, but if you are planning to use a receiver as a stop-gap you could do much worse for more money than the 1050.
Thanks and again just my opinion

That's a discount of just $49. I don't know if that's worth it, unless you really prefer the 1050 over something that's newer. I think you can get a DPL II receiver for less than the 1050 even if you include the $49 discount.

The 1050 was a great value in its day and it's still no doubt a nice receiver. But it's been out for well over a year. These days, I recommend to my friends who are buying a new receiver to get one with DPL II. That's just my opinion. I'm sure the 1050 is a nice receiver.


[This message has been edited by Will (edited July 11, 2002).]