Good points fmcorps. It brings to mind what I’ve come to realize in my quest for better sound: how subjective the choice is and you can’t rely just on reviews and what you read in forums. You listened to many receivers while I have been relying more on reviews. Guess I don't have time to get out and audition as much, which is of course an essential part of making a decision. It all comes down to what sounds best to each person. I also have a lot of respect for the Integra line based on comments from the dealer I bought my speakers from, how those speakers sounded when I auditioned them with the DTR 9.1, and what I've read about Integra. The speakers I bought are Monitor Audio Silver 9i fronts, 12i center and Silver surrounds. I have read and been told by other dealers they are "bright" and somewhere in my reading seem to recall that the Integra is also bright, so in combination they theoretically may not be a good combination. Yet in the dealer’s showroom I thought it sounded great. I went back and forth between that place and a dealer next door listening to Paradigm Studio 60s (or were they 80’s?) played through an upper end Marantz receiver. I thought the Monitor Audio speakers had better midrange detail and upper end clarity on female vocals and dialog in movie soundtracks was clearer. At home they also sound very good to my ears played through my Rotel RSX-965 receiver which I’ve had for about five years (75 watts x 5, DD, DTS). But maybe not quite as good as through the Integra 9.1 they were auditioned on. So this has started my quest for something better for a receiver or processor/amp combination. For the past three weeks I’ve had a Rotel RMB-1095 amp (200 watts x 5) in my system using my receiver as a pre-amp/processor. I can’t tell much difference between that and just my receiver. I think I can hear some difference but I really have to listen. So I finally pulled the plug and I’m returning the amp today. The experience I’ve had points out how subjective much of our perceptions are and even how some of us (myself especially) can't hear what others can. I realize my receiver may be limiting what the big Rotel amp can do, and with the Rotel 1066 processor it would probably sound better to me (a lot better to those with better ears ). But I’m pretty sure for my ears the much less expensive Outlaw 950 / 770 combo would suit me very well. Or maybe the Integra 9.1 or Denon 5803 (if I decide not to wait for the Outlaw). If I could audition all three with my speakers either in my home or even in a dealers showroom I certainly would. Your comments about that review I posted also makes me think about subjectivity. Reviewers hear differently than we do and what sounds good to them may sound different to us. And that reviewer also said the Integra 9.1 and Denon 5800 were very close, so for me either one would be a great choice I’m sure. Also need to consider ease of use which was mentioned in that review (Integra better). The dealer my speakers came from is offering the Integra 9.1 for a great price however, and there is something to be said to having a good relationship with a dealer. I like this place. They even delivered the speakers to my house, which is a 50 mile one way trip. So I’m not sure what I’ll end up with at this point. I understand the advantage of separates, so maybe the Outlaw. I was listening to my receiver last night; sounds good so I could live with it while I wait.