Everett, Rotel doesn't allow sales of their products online and they are really good at enforcing it. Just take a look at HT's post above yours and you will understand. You can always buy used Rotel products online like I did but finding the 1066 may take a while going that route.

Can someone explain the Bass Mgt on the 1066 vs the 950, a little more clearly?

Does the 1066 have the simple capability to let the L&R be "large" i.e. full range, and the Center + surrounds have the low freq. routed to the Sub?

Does this cause the so-called double bass when doing so?

On the Outlaw does this set up cause the bass to be repeated on the L+R and the Sub?

In the Rotel manual - available at their site - it states the sub has three modes: off, on, max that mean basicly no LFE/SUB, 'normal' LFE/SUB or double bass LFE/SUB, so all the basses (HEH) are covered.

The 1066 has IMO better bass management except (1) no analog filters on the 5.1 inputs and (2) no triple xover. I would use neither, but some setups might benefit.

Charlie

What does triple xover do that can't be done in the 1066? Is it being able to set DIFFERENT crossover frequencies for various speakers.

[This message has been edited by Will (edited June 18, 2002).]

The triple crossover? That's the ability on the 950 to set one crossover for mains, one for center channel, and one for surrounds. On the 1066, there is only the one crossover setting (in the sub setup menu screen, I believe). A moot point for folks with THX speakers, of course (since they'll want to use 80Hz crossover all the way around), but for some speaker setups it can be pretty darned handy.

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gonk -- Saloon Links | Pre/Pro Comparison Chart | 950 Review

OK, so what would setting your fronts to large and your rears to small do for you on a non triple crossover system? I always thought it set the crossover? Or am I right and the triple crossover just gives you the option to adjust the center along with the fronts and rear?

Setting a speaker to large will mean that it ignores the crossover. Setting a speaker to small means that it will be using the crossover to redirect low frequency to the sub. If a processor has a single crossover point, all "small" speakers use that point. (Many processors in the past had only a single crossover that was typically not adjustable -- fixed at 80Hz or 100Hz. Systems like that would match your description of crossover / large speaker / small speaker fairly closely.) With the 1066 (and the Model 1050 receiver, as another example), the crossover can be adjusted, but all "small" speakers sill use that same crossover point. The 950's "triple crossover" lets you have a little more flexibility. Say you have a pair of large bookshelf speakers (Paradigm Ref. Studio 40's, for example) that can perform well down to say 40Hz, but your surrounds really can't get much below 100Hz really well. The triple crossover lets you select 100Hz for the surrounds, 40Hz for the mains, and perhaps 80Hz for the center.

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gonk -- Saloon Links | Pre/Pro Comparison Chart | 950 Review

Thanks Gonk, that clears up my question.

One reason I like the 950 is its great bass management. But as has been pointed out elsewhere and I agree, changing the bass management on the fly on the 950 is tedious. You need to push quite few buttons on the remote, to change a crossover frequency, or for that matter, to change the subwoofer volume. Some 1066 owners have said it's easier to make bass management changes on the fly using the remote on the 1066, at least to the subwoofer volume.

But on the other hand, if you're the type of guy who likes to set and forget your bass management configuration, the bass management on the 950 is a fine one.

[This message has been edited by Will (edited June 19, 2002).]

Will: Once you found out what crossover frequencies work best with your speakers, why would you ever change the crossover points? Are you going to be changing different speakers in and out of your system?

As for the sub volume, yes, I do agree that occasionally you do need to increase or decrease your sub output dependent on source media and its' mix and mastering.

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merc