Also, the 1066 has a nifty feature where you can set a 'trim' value for the subwoofer that's tied to surround mode - so you can cut some bass on DTS or add a bit to DPL2 or whatever automagically. Also, there are 'volitile' trims that self reset on power down so you can trim a specific movie without messing with your calibrated values.

A lot of features that I doubt cost much to implement but that show experience in the problem domain, as we sometimes say.


Charlie

Didn't Outlaw say, though, that they had run out of MIPs with the processor they chose to use?

That would have been one thing I'd have changed if I had helped design the Model 950-- scrap the mediocre tuner and use the money saved on those parts to add more processing horsepower. Then they could have added DTS 24/96, and all the other user interface controls a lot have been clamoring for.

In fact, I'd have then raised the asking price about $50-60 bucks to finance the additional feature of easy user software upgradeability via a PC connection, and Flashable software.

But, again you know what they say about hindsight.

Dan


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Yeah, Dan, that's what they say, but I'm not sure I buy it. I mean, how could adding "volatile" settings use up any more MIPS? Or per-mode/per-input settings?

I agree with you about the tuner, BTW. It's actually a pretty nice tuner, but I still would have preferred they spent the money on other stuff.

Maybe combined the 950's tuner with the IR-1000 to make a kind of "universal tuner" whose greatest feature of all is, you don't have to buy it if you don't want it.

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In the 950, I would have preferred the ability to more easily change the crossover frequency and for that matter, to more easily turn the crossover frequency on and off (e.g., "small" to "large"). Not because I plan to switch speakers. For movies I'd like the crossover to be set at the standard 80 Hz all around, but for music I'd like to more easily set the crossover frequency much lower or in some cases, off (e.g., set my main speakers to "large"). So it's a movie versus music thing. My main speakers can play most music well at almost the full frequency range, but my speakers don't have the slammage I want for movies. That's my system and of course, YMMV.


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Everett,

Yep I actually own a pair of Ohm F's. They are in pretty good shape, some dings and lines on the cones in the midrange section. Even with the dings I don't think it effects the sound quality. The only big repair I did was to replace the surrounds with new ones. The old ones had dry rotted. I am in the midst of recovering the covers with new material.

They work OK for the surrounds, Not exactly a dipole but they work. I am actually thinking of selling them as they are a bit large and power hungry for surrounds.. LOL
I use my outlaw 750 to power them along with my center.

You are stuck going to a dealer for the rotel, not that its a bad thing. If you have terrible dealers in your area, call up some others in another area. I'm sure they would help you out.


Jeff

I thought some of the people who a/b'ed the 950 and 1066 could definitely hear the double bass in the 950? Why not the 1066?
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I understood double bass on the 1066 is something that's defeatable.

The 1066 has three sub settings, yes, no and max. Max is the double bass. Yes is the correct setting if you have a sub.

Legairre and Will, thanks again for your replies. I can be slow sometimes so please be kind...




Can't the Outlaw be defeated the same way? I thought if I turned down the LFE level all the way it would defeat the double bass also? I am sorry if I just am not getting it.

I just tried this out on my 1066 and I didn't get the same results. Here's what happened for me, tell me what I did wrong and I'll test it again:

source was the Fleetwood Mac Rumors DVD-A. The bass line right at 3:00 into track 7 'the chain'.

1) Mains set to large, DVD-A in stereo mode - No Sub
2) Mains set to small, DVD-A in stereo mode - no Sub
3) Mains set to small, DVD-A in multi-channel mode - Sub Active


That's exactly what i expected to happen. I don't appear to be getting bass management on the main channels on the 6.1 inputs.

Can someone else confirm this or correct my test case?

brianca