Add me to the list of people that have to congratulate the Outlaws for allowing open comments on their site. Some sites censor anything negative about any Outlaw product, but not this one.

Here's to the Outlaws for runnig their forum in an open and fair manner.

Add me to the list of people who appreciate Outlaw's apparent commitment to the free expression of ideas. I've noticed that on some other forums messages or even whole threads are deleted citing the misbehavior of the participants. I can understand locking threads to calm heated tempers but the deletion of the expression of ideas and opinions is just so suprising to me.

In this forum, I have seen the free expression of ideas. Maybe I haven't been around long enough but I have never seen anyone removed or any thread deleted.

So I also just want to say thank you to Outlaw for this additional service that they provide.

'Tis one of the reasons I never registered for *cough* HTF...

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Matthew J. Hill
matt@idsi.net

I have consistently been pleased with the free discourse that takes place here, particularly when it delves into competing products while remaining civil and generally productive. It's been sort of fun to see some of the notable participants in the 950 debates at HTF drop in here, especially since I think it has helped the discussions here.

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gonk -- Saloon Links | Pre/Pro Comparison Chart | 950 Review

I would agree that the Outlaw forum is truly remarkable. It seems like the only board with absolute freedom, ie. no locks, but it also seems like the most civil forums of all. I always enjoyed reading this board before I became a Gunslinger and its even better participating. Thanks Outlaw and all you fellow gunslingers for keeping this forum going.

I think it's just human nature that the more you police people, the more they need policing...

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Matthew J. Hill
matt@idsi.net

I don't feel that my 950 is 'bright', or 'harsh' in the least. As previously stated by others, I would describe it with terms like 'accurate', and 'detailed'. Analog sources through the 950 don't sound any different than they do if I plug them straight into the power amps. Using the analog outputs of my DVD player makes everything sound significantly 'blurred' compared to using the digital out and the DAC in the 950.

I don't understand how the 950 can pass signals so true to their source, yet still be considered 'bright' or 'harsh'? Do people really want a pre-amp that's going to 'blur' the source material?

Am I missing something here?

- Mike

Off topic I know, but how do you like this amp? I tried for a while to find one, only to discover they weren't made for very long, and they were discontinued.

- Mike

Mike, I completely agree with what you are saying. I still think the 950 is pretty much neutral in that it doesn't add much "color" to the sound one way or the other. It is very revealing, but not what I would call "bright" in my opinion.



Well, I for one, are going to have to disagree with you. The 1066 looks fine, but so does the 950. I like the volume knob on the 950 over the one on the Rotel- you can hardly turn it. The buttons on both are ok IMO. As far as getting what you pay for, I believe the 950 would sell for about what the 1066 sells for if it were offered at the local B&M- in the $1275.00- 1350.00 range would be my guess. Maybe more as it does have a tuner and some other features not available on the 1066. I have listened to the Rotel a couple of times now, it find it to be a really nice sounding product. After hearing it described as sounding warm,I was surprised to find it to be somewhat bright to me (coupled to a Rotel amp, DVD player and B&W CDM9's)and maybe slightly lacking in detail. In reality, I would probably have a hard time telling the difference between the two if I were blindfolded unless I spent a lot of time with them. (I'm referring to 2 channel music here). Like Merc said, the other equipment in the chain plays a big part also.
The biggest problem the Outlaw's have today is they can't get product fast enough to satisy the demand. And that seems to be about their only real problem. So- if you are going to have problems- that's a pretty good one to have.
And I'm glad we have this place to agree to disagree if we feel the need.

I've made that statement on the HTF and I agree that the Outlaw is not bright. I own and have owned bright equipment and I think the outlaw is dead on neutral. I think the majority of the people who a/b ed them liked the Rotel sound to begin with so it should come to no surprise that they found the Outlaws bright since (based on my experience with other Rotel pieces) Rotel is a very warm unit to begin with. Whatever it is, I strongly disagree about it being harsh.

[This message has been edited by Jed M (edited June 07, 2002).]