Starting tonight stereophile will be bringing us coverage of CES. We might get some answers as to how the 950 looks now and that new product they are announcing.

Didn't know there was a new Outlaw product coming at CES. Oh boy oh boy is it a DVD player? :-)

Well I dont know about a dvd player but they did say a addition to their cables would be announced. Something about the nickname of Las Vegas, Possibly sin city s-video. Anyone else can guess what the new product is?

Obsolete? Because it doesn't have firewire so that maybe someday you can play your DVD-A's through the DAC of your processor instead of DVD player?

Give me a break.

When that day comes, you'll be looking to upgrade processors no matter what you own/buy now. And you should be glad you bought the 950 for $900 instead of the Lexicon for $9000 when the current generation actually is obsolete (in probably 3 years time).

HT crazed correct 100%.
All so-called "upgradable" processors are very expensive, they cost arm-and-a-leg to upgrade (recent anounced upgrade for Krell HTS includes analog bypass like in outlaw + new DAC chips and cost ~$2500), it takes forever to upgrade and no guarentee that they will support Firewire soon (if ever).
Cost of new Outlaw processor will be compatible (probably much less) then just cost of upgrade on "modular" processors.
I have nothing against Theta or Meridian - they are increadibly well engeneered and build, but you cannot compare them pricewise with Outlaw.
Buy Outlaw now for $900, and resell it in 3 years (when (and if) new format will pick up steam) for $500. You will have all you need and nothing you do not for 3 years for $400, which probably equal tax on a new Lexicon...

To Mr HDcrazed , it seems your not quite up to date. CES has just finished and a slew of products were announced. Pioneer and denon just came out with recievers and dvd players that transfers audio and video. So your not waiting that long a time the products should arrive buy the second quarter of this year. The mitsubishi tv and sony both have firewire for copy protection so you can tape hdtv, so please before you put your two cents. Try to keep in open mind, this is a forum and my reservation clocked at 10:02 for the 950.

Obviously, if "The Outlaws" had ANY good news at all.......they would have posted it either here on the Saloon (which they no doubt monitor) or as a News Update on their web site.

These guys are (I assume) intellegent business folks who understand marketing, as well as their customer base. And if they do in fact monitor/moderate this forum site, they surely know that their loyal customer base is disintegrating every minute they remain silent on these issues with the 950.

I too am one of many HT enthusiasts who have $$$ burning a hole in my pocket. I've got a serious Jones to buy a new HT set up....yesterday. If I don't hear any news (good or bad) soon........I'm just going to pull the trigger elsewhere. Maybe, just maybe, this 950 has got so many problems, that it isn't worth waiting for. And maybe that's why these boys aren't talking.

Which brings me to my original point. They know that they need to communicate with us, yet they don't. This tells me that (at least from their perspective) whatever thay do have to say must be pretty bad news. They obviuosly believe that any statement from them regarding the situation with the 950 would cause even greater harm than their deafening silence.

Evidently there must be some pretty nasty news out there regarding the AT 2000.

Evidently there must be some pretty ugly updates on the shipping status of the 950 itself.

Maybe they spoke too soon as to the capabilities of this new dream 950 pre-amp.

Maybe they've gotten their #^*$?@ in a sling over patents or something.

One thing is for sure, that the consumers will continue to speculate until "The Outlaws" themselves come forth and level with us, somehow, someway.

Or maybe, just maybe, "....all that glitters is not gold."