What gives you that idea? I have already auditioned two subs from other sites, and have already lost over $150 on shipping (original and return). I really have no choice, as there is only one audio dealer here, and the only subs he carries are Paradigm at FULL retail. I don't think they sound good enough to justify their price.

Ordered an Energy s12.3 sub this morning, all reviews I have read are favorable, and according to Tom Nousaine's sub test, it goes lower, and has more output than either of the other subs mentioned in this thread.

my bad on the model.

and you can always move to an area more hip to your audio needs.

Call me crazy, but anyone who's going to agonize over a difference in $20 on virtually identical products might want to consider spending their money on food rather than audio equipment. This thread is just plain silly....it's like a guy walking in to buy a new Porsche and then bitching about the cost of the floor mats.

Ritz, several little differences can easily add up to a lot of difference when you are purchasing several things over time. Makes sense to save where you can.

The guy says he already blew $150 on shipping for products he didn't even purchase and then spent MORE than either the Hsu or the Outlaw product he was comparing on an Energy sub. Seems like "saving money" wasn't his agenda here...

So he probably spent north of $700 on his new sub with tax and then pissed away another $150 on his other dalliances. So pardon me if I have difficulty taking his "economising" seriously.

Cheers,

yeah i was trying to point out that he was silly too.

The Energy s12.3 sub was $510 delivered, with full warranty. That's less than either the HSU or LFM-1. I am very, very pleased with it by the way.

As far as the $150 I wasted on "dalliances", maybe you didn't see where I explained that is the only way I can audition ANY subs, other than Paradigm. Or maybe you just have reading comprehension problems.

You guys sure get riled up about someone asking about free shipping. And if Outlaw had added a link, or explained in ANY way what the free shipping was for, this post would have never happened.

i think you got such a negative response because you sounded like a moron.

You guys mis-read all my posts, and I sound like a moron?

Such a friendly site. I will cross Outlaw off my list for any future purchases.

Really. I don't think anyone seemed "riled up" at all. I just thought your rationale was a bit silly and misguided. After all that effort, you ended up paying exactly the same amount you would have spent on the Outlaw. So I found it funny that you were bitching about the price.

But hey, as long as you're happy...

I guess I can never buy another Porsche since I encountered a "jerk" driving one once. Thanks for adding that one last amusing ditty to your story. Don't let the door hit you in the hiney on the way out...

sheesh....