"I was thinking the same thing. Why bother purchasing a receiver when you're just going to get an amp at the same time? I'd go for a Pre/Pro instead. "

Mainly because the receivers are better and more advanced in many ways than preamp/processors. It's the amps in the receivers that give them a bad name, not the functionality.

I'm torn between an Outlaw and an ATI now, with ATI leading because I can buy small and add modules.....

Robert