I'm interested in purchasing the 7100 not because of more power (my Pioneer Elite VSX-55TXi is also 100 watts), but because I may purchase some 4 or 6 ohm speakers in the future. I do not listen at loud levels, even when watching movies. I typically don't go above -20 or -15Db from reference.

So I assume this would be the amplifier for me?

Robert

Are you planning on getting low impedance speakers for all channels or just your mains? If you're just thinking of changing the mains, you may want to go with the power increase of 2 M-200 monoblocks. That way you get plenty of nice, clean power for the channels that need it. It would also probably take some stress off your receiver. Just a thought...

it would kill the pioneer elite

Thanks. I decided to wait a bit until I get the receiver, before making any amp decision!

Robert

That made it sound like you already HAD it, either way, any outlaw amp will be superior to your recievers. there are more factors to amp quality than rms output, all which tilt in favor of the outlaws. really for that matter, most other seperate power amps.

If you are looking to change out the amp section for a receiver that you do not yet have, why not consider getting the 7100 and the 950? I believe that the 950 would actually be less expensive than the Pioneer VSX-55TXi. And if you bought the 950/7100 combo you could save a $100 off of the cost of these separately, which would definitely put the 950 below the cost of the VSX-55TXi. Just a thought.

Jeff

I was thinking the same thing. Why bother purchasing a receiver when you're just going to get an amp at the same time? I'd go for a Pre/Pro instead.

"I was thinking the same thing. Why bother purchasing a receiver when you're just going to get an amp at the same time? I'd go for a Pre/Pro instead. "

Mainly because the receivers are better and more advanced in many ways than preamp/processors. It's the amps in the receivers that give them a bad name, not the functionality.

I'm torn between an Outlaw and an ATI now, with ATI leading because I can buy small and add modules.....

Robert

better and more advanced in many ways? Could you elaborate? I realise that Preamps do not have godlike status next to a receiver, but what you're saying seems to have them switch place.

Look at the specs (especially the MCACC) of the Pioneer VSX-55TXi and the DAC's in them. USB, I-link, etc. Lots of good stuff. I could have upgraded my B&K Reference 30 to a 50 (actually, 31) specifications, and it would have barely equalled the Pioneer. Same DAC's in both, but economy of scale makes the Pioneer much cheaper for better functionality. It's only the amp which is substandard to any separate.

My old B&K did have some other nicities, like a second zone and better bass management, but I don't use either one, and I cross over at 80hz.

In any case, I've decided to wait until later this week when I can pick it up. If I can hobble along with my current speakers, I'll save up for the last amp I should need to buy. (Outlaw, or ATI1800/2000).

Robert


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