hey LEEEEP - GONK, I need the link for Energy Take & Definite Tech ....

So many choices, ...like a kid in the candy store ....

Off to lunch, so I'll cut to the chase:

Definitive Technology front page ( ProCinema )

Energy Speakers home page ( Take 5.2 )

Enjoy!

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gonk -- Saloon Links | Pre/Pro Comparison Chart | 950 Review

If you like it loud you might look at some high efficiency speakers like Klipsch or Infinity. A 5db bump in sensitivity is like bumping that 65 watts up to 200+.

Some very high sensitivity types can gain you over 10db, or a 10x multiplication of output.

For instance a 65 watt amp into a 100 db speaker will be just like a 650 watt amp into a 90 db (typical) speaker....

Here's one to look at in the <$1,000 category...

http://www.meadowlarkaudio.com/swift.htm

I've heard lots of great things about this company. Time aligned designs, 1st order x-overs, mated with a transmission line design.

I strongly considered purchasing these, but there is nobody within several hundred miles from me who deals with them. I exchanged emails with the owner Pat, and he said that in the future their company may permit orders direct from them for people like me.

In the end I ended up with Paradigms. My studio 60's should be in at the dealer today or tomorrow.

If you end up trying the Meadowlarks or if anybody here has any experience with them, I would like to hear your thoughts....

Transmission lines can be excellent, but are notoriously hard to get right. A good implementation will sound decidedly 'un-boxy' due to the unique properties of the line. I'd be curious how they did too. Some of the stuff they say is pretty goofy, where they compare using lumber to create musical instruments vs. lumber in speaker enclosures. They are (at least for Hi-Fi speakers) two fundamentally different things.

Doesn't mean the speakers are bad, it does mean marketing needs to be reined in a bit.


[This message has been edited by charlie (edited December 09, 2002).]

Hey, what about B&W's?! My two fronts are the 602 S3's and they sound great. They received many great reviews and I "see" why.

To start with, I am a new 1050 purchaser; I have had the receiver about 2 weeks now. I am sufficiently pleased with the $ vs performance of the unit. Not a bad deal for $499 at all.

I have some cheap-o, newer Advents (AS-2?), and they don't sound half-bad; nice enough for a bedroom system, but not for front-end. By the way, I did not go for the system approach; I have some older Polk bookshelf speakers for my surrounds, a cheaper BIC center (not bad for $20), and a JBL powered sub. The movies I have watched so far have sounded great- especially Lord of the Rings and Oh Brother, Where Art Thou.

I then went on the upgrade quest. I found a Carver PM-175 for $220 locally, used, and I figured that the amp would be a good test for the pre-amp outs; if the Outlaw would sound good through that Carver, it has definite promise. I have been pleased with the detail so far- very quick, not flabby in the bass dept, either with my sub or using the Advent speakers full-range. I bought a pair of Magnepan MMGs to replace the Advents- they will be here Monday. I have not heard Magnepans in a home, just in a store; has anyone given the Magnepans a listen, or tried them in their system? The Carver will have enough power to drive them correctly, to begin with, anyway.

When I am a bit more flush with cash, I will probably move the Carver to power a passive sub and get a Rotel or something similar to drive the Magnepans. Any comments or suggestions about Magnepan or other speaker experience would be helpful and welcomed.

Just discovered a Paradigm retailer around the corner from work, they also have Mirage and other Hi end stuff, and an upgrade policy, looks promising.

Are the old Advents, by H.Kloss, outdated? I notice that the new ones are considered cheap ....

Hear Hear!!

I teach a drum line part time at a local university. As a "teat" before an extended weekend trip, I set up my gear in one of the classrooms. I was driving my digem's to close well above my normal listening levels (normaly listen at them at about 40-35 on the dial on my reciever at home. My reciever was at 20-15 for parts of the night...) They didn't even wince...I did, my students did, (we were also demoing the ps2200 sub that night.) LOTR was to much for some people...heck even I was getting sick at some parts due to the constant bowel loostening bass...but I digress.

From having a number of people walk out of our marathon session saying "thes is better then the movie theater," and the fact that the digems didn't sweat a drop all I can say is I strongly doubt that I will EVER buy another brand of speakers again. Yes in a few years (like oh 10-15) I may need a new pair of speakers, but I guarantee that they will be Paradigms...unless for some unbelieveable reason Paradigm goes out of business. Then I will just have to do with my 15 year old speakers.

Jason...who is completly, and I mean COMPLETLY content with my choice in speakers.

I have the paradigm Monitor 7's and the Studio center. I love these speakers and next year plan to upgrade my surrounds with paradigms. NO complaints.
Mike