All of you Mouth breathin' moron's need to go back and read from the beginning! Now I guess I'm no longer supposed to take it to a dealer afterall and have it compared. What's the matter boys are we gettin' a little worried that it may prove to be a piece of junk? I'm not like the rest of you punks where I have to get up and go to work, I have all day to buy audio gear and play with it. That's what gives me the edge as I have time to find out what is worth the price and what is not. I have lots of money and time... If any of you would have read the previous remarks you would know that I tried many subwoofers and they were all hooked up in as many ways as could be. Don't be pissed at me because we all bought a receiver, waited months and it turned out to be a piece of junk. Now if you want to talk about a great piece that is a true bargain it's the Oppo 970. There's a company that has really done the job right! See ya Girls... LOL!