#27483 - 01/29/05 09:34 AM
Pardon My Ignorance...
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Desperado
Registered: 12/27/04
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Loc: ChicagoLand/USA
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I am brand new to "multi-channel" sound previously only having a 2 channel (stereo) rig. I just set up my 950/7100/LFM-1 combo with Klipsch Heresy Mains and a center and surrounds (for the last week I have only listened in stereo mode) Watched "Blackhawk Down" last night and enjoyed it but not "blown away" by it...but I have not yet set everything up as it should be yet. My questions are: Do you all listen to music in "multichannel?" I listened today and then switched to "stereo bypass" and I like the sound better...perhaps because I am used to it? When you put in a movie, do you find the sound is considerably lower than if you were just playing stereo music? Why is this? Do you turn your sub up (louder) during movies than you do during music? I am still learning this as well... Sorry for the "newbie" questions but you have to start sometime. Thanks. Bill
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#27484 - 01/29/05 10:31 AM
Re: Pardon My Ignorance...
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Desperado
Registered: 04/10/02
Posts: 1857
Loc: Gusev Crater, Mars
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I always listen to stereo music the way it was intended - in stereo. Decoding it with ProLogic compromises the original imaging, if that is important to you.
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#27485 - 01/29/05 10:44 AM
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Gunslinger
Registered: 03/14/03
Posts: 66
Loc: Montgomery, TX
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I've always liked the bypass myself versus the multi-channel. It utilizes an analog signal versus a digital signal. It seems a little fuller and warmer to me. I also like the 5 channel digital better than the 7 channel or digital stereo mode. However, as I've read more in the forum and learned more about the 950 and felt more comfortable making adjustments to it, I've found that I can dramatically change the warmth of the digital modes by changing the crossover points.
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#27486 - 01/29/05 12:02 PM
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Gunslinger
Registered: 12/22/04
Posts: 49
Loc: Chicago
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Silversport,
I've noticed the same with DVD movies as well. Actually I need to crank the 950 to approximately -29db versus -40dm to reach the same spl level on meter. I just attributed it to the media/material method recorded.
I would be interested in hearing the correct answer as well though.
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#27487 - 01/29/05 12:40 PM
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Desperado
Registered: 10/25/04
Posts: 688
Loc: peoria il
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Originally posted by cedman1: Silversport,
I've noticed the same with DVD movies as well. Actually I need to crank the 950 to approximately -29db versus -40dm to reach the same spl level on meter. I just attributed it to the media/material method recorded.
I would be interested in hearing the correct answer as well though. same thing with my 1050,i too would say media recording.on the same thought i have cds that are recorded extremely high(some low) seems like i have to group them in my changer or i find myself scrambling for the volume knob or remote,whichever is closer.
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#27488 - 01/29/05 01:26 PM
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Desperado
Registered: 03/21/01
Posts: 14054
Loc: Memphis, TN USA
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For music, I've always found myself prefering stereo mode (either via digital input or using analog input and stereo bypass) for CD's - as soundhound says, it's the way it was intended. There is a measure of personal preference, there, of course, and some people may prefer Pro Logic II (or 5/7 Stereo even). As for the difference in volume required for DVD versus CD or cable/satellite, there's a very simple reason for it. Per Jim Taylor\'s DVD FAQ , the audio level for DVD is lower and more consistent than other sources.
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#27489 - 01/29/05 02:05 PM
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Desperado
Registered: 10/25/02
Posts: 466
Loc: IL
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I like listening to music the way it was intended. CD's are in 2 channel, so I listen to them in stereo. DVD's are in multi-channel, so I listen to them in that form. Mostly in DD as I don't have DVD-Audio capability and there aren't as many DTS tracks.
My DVD movies are always quieter than music in ANY of the formats. That goes for both DVDs and CDs. It's just the way they're made. I really don't have much on both CD and DVD for the same music, just Blue Man Group. The DVD is louder, but I haven't bothered to check if that's because there are more channels being used (more energy bouncing through the air) at the same time or because it's been recorded louder. My guess is that they're similar. I think you have to have the same tracks by the same recorder/composer, otherwise you're introducing extra variables that can not be accounted for.
Spend the time to get the setup right. If done really wrong I could easily believe a stereo playback would sound better. There's less interference and fewer things in the wrong places at the wrong settings.
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#27490 - 01/29/05 02:07 PM
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Gunslinger
Registered: 02/07/03
Posts: 242
Loc: Los Angeles
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I'm a bit more flexible on the stereo vs. surround thing. However, I generally end up preferring stereo recordings reproduced in stereo. And it's very clear to me that DPL2 not only tinkers with the imaging, as Soundhound says, but it also dinks with the frequency response.
Even so, sometimes I enjoy the surround effect for some content.
Season to taste.
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#27491 - 01/29/05 02:31 PM
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Desperado
Registered: 12/27/04
Posts: 326
Loc: ChicagoLand/USA
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I am sure my mileage may vary but...I am thinking what I am experiencing is "normal"...the new normal! Anyway, Yes! I prefer 2 channel stereo music in...2 channel...It was nice to hear a movie last night where I could actually HEAR the conversation...as you get older, you start to think...oh gawd now that's going too??? Thanks all, Bill
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#27492 - 01/29/05 07:40 PM
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Gunslinger
Registered: 05/29/03
Posts: 297
Loc: Middle Earth
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silversport:
I think something is wrong with your amp. I have the same pre and amp as you do but don’t have the problem you are referring to. You should’ve bought my amp when you had a chance.
Just kidding.
There’s a noticeable volume level difference between Star Wars I, II DVD and Lord of The Rings DVD. L.O.T.R. is louder. The same is true for some of my CDs too. I’d say it’s the source material.
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