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#27409 - 01/19/05 10:49 AM 950B - Questions about B-Stock
macharya Offline
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I have been considering the B stock version of the 950. According to the website "they may have some slight appearance blemishes, as these products may have been opened and used by a consumer prior to their return."

Could anyone who owns a B-stock give some specific examples of the type of blemish? Is this noticable - i.e. large scratch, dent etc.?

Thanks.

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#27410 - 01/19/05 11:05 AM Re: 950B - Questions about B-Stock
Az Offline
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Registered: 10/20/04
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Loc: Atlanta GA
I think they're all going to be different. Some may not have any blemishes to speak of at all, other may have some noticeable warts.

The point is that if some small scratches or dings are going to bother you, you need to pony up the extra $50 and get a new model.
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#27411 - 01/19/05 11:31 AM Re: 950B - Questions about B-Stock
macharya Offline
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That's a good point.

Not sure if it will bother me...it's just that a large scratch might be distracting. It's a $126 question - the difference between free shipping on the "B" vs. higher price + shipping for the new smile

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#27412 - 01/19/05 11:57 AM Re: 950B - Questions about B-Stock
analogmusic Offline
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Registered: 10/13/04
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Loc: Helen, GA
I purchased a B stock 950 and 7 B stock M-200s. No dings or scratches were found. One M-200 was shipped without the 2nd (outer) box, but arrived with no damage. All are working as new.

Gary
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#27413 - 01/19/05 06:28 PM Re: 950B - Questions about B-Stock
gonk Offline
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I don't remember ever hearing of folks with B-stock units reporting visible dings or scrapes. There are probably a few cases of it happening, but it seems to be rare.
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#27414 - 01/19/05 11:08 PM Re: 950B - Questions about B-Stock
Dave Anderson Offline
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Registered: 11/14/04
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Loc: Lodi, CA
I ordered a B-stock 950 and it arrived with no visible marks and works perfectly. I am very happy with my purchase. I replaced a sick Lexicon DC2.
Thanks,
Dave Anderson

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#27415 - 01/20/05 10:08 PM Re: 950B - Questions about B-Stock
JT Clark Offline
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Registered: 10/25/02
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Loc: IL
Mine looks (and works) just fine.

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#27416 - 01/20/05 10:12 PM Re: 950B - Questions about B-Stock
ScottH Offline
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Registered: 10/07/02
Posts: 83
Loc: NY, NY, USA
[/URL]]www.outlawaudio.com/bstock-explained.html

*What's a B-Stock?

B-stock units are factory-refurbished units that have been open for any reason. They carry a full warranty and thirty-day money back trial. While these units are 100% fully operational they are not guaranteed to be blemish free.

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#27417 - 01/21/05 11:13 AM Re: 950B - Questions about B-Stock
martialovid Offline
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Registered: 12/20/04
Posts: 6
Loc: NYC
I bought a refurb 950B anda new 7100 5 weeks ago. Except for the odd fact that there were two remotes in the box (one loose) the 950B seemed absolutely new, with no marks whatsoever, and it worked just as perfectly.

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#27418 - 01/21/05 12:12 PM Re: 950B - Questions about B-Stock
macharya Offline
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Looks like I know what to do now! Thanks for your comments.

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#27419 - 01/23/05 11:09 PM Re: 950B - Questions about B-Stock
jeffdavis Offline
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Registered: 08/08/03
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Loc: Columbia, SC
macharya,

I purchased a 950-b/770 combo and my 950 was/is blemish free. One of the reasons that I bought the b-stock 950 instead of a new one was to get the free shipping with the new 770 amp. But even if it has a blemish or two, you'll love the sound that it produces.

Jeff
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#27420 - 01/23/05 11:46 PM Re: 950B - Questions about B-Stock
macharya Offline
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Registered: 01/03/05
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I tell you - it's getting more and more difficult not to hit that "confirm order" button...

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#27421 - 01/24/05 07:16 AM Re: 950B - Questions about B-Stock
silversport Offline
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Registered: 12/27/04
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Loc: ChicagoLand/USA
Haaa! I was where you are a little over a month ago...hemmed and hawwed about getting this or that...everyone here is very helpful...placed the stuff in the shopping cart and then out of the cart...anyway...towards the end of last year, I FINALLY decided to order the stuff and I guess the Outlaws server went down...I COULDN'T ORDER IT!!!
By the time everything was straightened out it was January 3rd and the price of shipping had gone up (I ordered the 950/7100 LFM-1 combo so "B" stock wasn't worth it for me)...only about 10 bux but I was frustrated...THEN...my credit card suspected fraud and denied the purchase...ANOTHER day to straighten all that out and convince the Outlaws that I wasn't an "OUTLAW" and the wait for the stuff...(really comes pretty fast! :-)
ORDER NOW...you won't be disappointed, the service is great and everyone here is pretty helpful!
Enjoy...your next post should say..."I hit the confirm order button..." ;-)
Bill
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#27422 - 01/24/05 10:54 AM Re: 950B - Questions about B-Stock
cedman1 Offline
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Registered: 12/22/04
Posts: 49
Loc: Chicago
I'm also was in the same situation. However, thanks to painttoad assuring me I would be pleased, I clicked the button. I'm very happy so far and there is a major improvement over what I had been using previously. I ordered the B-stock with the free shipping, great deal by the way. My unit is an older unit I believe with the original surround stickers however, that is the only difference that I can see from the gallery pics and picturs off of audiogon.
The shipping was the only eventfull item in the entire process. I was working during all three delivery attempts so I had to drive out to the Skokie fedex facility from the city (Chicago), in the first snow fall of 2005....Still worth it.

Ced

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#27423 - 01/25/05 10:23 AM Re: 950B - Questions about B-Stock
painttoad Offline
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glad you're happy,i love my 1050 just wish upgrades were feasible for me,i would love to check out outlaw amps,but that definitely means new mains,because i just can't turn it down....

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#27424 - 01/25/05 04:36 PM Re: 950B - Questions about B-Stock
anfieldman Offline
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Registered: 01/25/05
Posts: 2
Loc: Cincinnati
I've recently received my B-Stock 950. There are a few marks on the screws where you can tell they opened the case, but that is the only mark I can see. Shipped with a Brand New remote.

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#27425 - 01/27/05 04:54 PM Re: 950B - Questions about B-Stock
Lee44 Offline
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Registered: 08/25/04
Posts: 24
Loc: Portland, Oregon USA
Well, you guys finally convinced me, pulled the trigger on a 950B.

Move me from lurker to owner smile

Thanks,
Lee

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#27426 - 01/31/05 05:00 PM Re: 950B - Questions about B-Stock
macharya Offline
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Registered: 01/03/05
Posts: 43
Well, it's done - I hit the "Place Order" button and a Outlaw 950B/7100 combo is headed my way!

Looking forward to setting this up and testing it out. Thanks for all the "hand holding" along the way :-)

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#27427 - 01/31/05 06:30 PM Re: 950B - Questions about B-Stock
gonk Offline
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Congratulations - I think you'll enjoy it.
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#27428 - 02/06/05 01:38 AM Re: 950B - Questions about B-Stock
Lee44 Offline
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Registered: 08/25/04
Posts: 24
Loc: Portland, Oregon USA
My 950B came in today, just opened the box. New remote and accessories.

I can't find a mark on the unit, looks new smile Can't even find marks on the screws. Thank you Outlaw!

There is a blue dot next to the serial number. I understand what the blue dot is from reading other posts.

Dang, I'm leaving on a trip in 6.5 hrs but I sure feel like pulling the old Onkyo 787 out of the rack and installing the 950 and amps.

I'll be back Thursday night frown its going to be a long week.

Lee

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#27429 - 02/06/05 07:41 AM Re: 950B - Questions about B-Stock
psklenar Offline
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Registered: 03/01/01
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Quote:
Originally posted by Lee44:
My 950B came in today, just opened the box. New remote and accessories. ...
Welcome to the gang Lee!
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#27430 - 02/08/05 08:56 AM Re: 950B - Questions about B-Stock
wingnut4772 Offline
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Registered: 01/12/05
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Loc: Miami
I just got a 950B and it looks flawless and works perfectly.
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