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#27271 - 01/05/05 08:05 AM Re: Outlaw 950/7100 combo with Orb Mod2 speakers
gonk Offline
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In the case of the "Crossover-free design for coherent, lifelike sound" they are talking about the speaker's internal components - where most speakers use an array of drivers (tweeter for high frequency, one or more 3" to 6" drivers for mid- and lower frequencies, and sometimes even more drivers for low frequencies) with an analog crossover circuit inside the speaker to divide the signal up between the appropriate drivers, the MOD1 and MOD2 use one or two 3" drivers that get the full signal with no internal crossover circuit. This arrangement is actually extremely rare outside of bargain-bin "home theater in a box" packages, and difficult to carry off well because a single driver is being asked to cover a wide frequency range.

The specs for the speakers are somewhat difficult to find (there's a Specifications page linked part way down the left edge of the page), but if you look at the information for the MOD1 and MOD2 speakers by themselves it lists the -3dB response as 120Hz-18,000Hz and the -6dB response (which is much less commonly used, as 6dB represents a pretty significant dropoff) as 80Hz-20,000Hz.

The most notorious example of the single driver, no crossover design is the Bose Acoustimass line. Having sadly owned such a setup at one time, I'm pretty keenly aware of the opportunity for trouble with such a setup. Bose does not publish any frequency response data for the Acoustimass line, so I was pleased to see Orb providing that information. The Orbs do start to roll off in the treble a bit earlier than I'd like, but they get a lot higher than Bose's cubes (which some third-party testing has indicated roll off at 13,000Hz, a full 7,000Hz below the upper limit of human hearing).
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#27272 - 01/08/05 01:06 AM Re: Outlaw 950/7100 combo with Orb Mod2 speakers
macharya Offline
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Registered: 01/03/05
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Well, I connected two of the Orb speakers to my 45 w/channel Denon *stereo* and they sound amazing. I am going to test the entire set with other receivers, but haven't ruled out the 950B/7100 combo. Out of curiosity, anyone in downtown Chicago with the 950 (or 950/7100 combo)? Would it be possible to take a look/listen at the system? Thanks!

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#27273 - 01/20/05 03:23 PM Re: Outlaw 950/7100 combo with Orb Mod2 speakers
Jason J Offline
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Registered: 09/02/02
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Loc: Northern Garden State
OT but maybe applicable:

First off, it may have been my connection, but not a single link worked for me just now on the orb site. Weird...

Second, how are they not getting sued by Anthony Gallo? www.roundsound.com

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#27274 - 01/22/05 10:26 AM Re: Outlaw 950/7100 combo with Orb Mod2 speakers
Alejate Offline
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Registered: 05/10/03
Posts: 181
Loc: Albany, NY
macharya, I am so glad you found speakers that you really are impressed with. Do you realize that you have just been bitten by the audio bug and from this point on you will always be wondering what the next upgrade you can buy is? I used receivers for nearly 25 years before finally buying the 950/770 two years ago and I can testify that it is definitley an audible upgrade. My wife and daughter will also testify to this. So if you can afford it, try the 950. I will agree with the other posts, it is very revealing and I have it matched with B&W CDM 9NTs which are also highly revealing. The combination can make poorly recorded material sound poor to almost unlistenable. But well recorded material is astounding. The wonderful thing about owning the 950 is that you can keep upgrading or changing your speakers and the signal fed to the amp will always be on high quality.

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#27275 - 01/23/05 12:07 AM Re: Outlaw 950/7100 combo with Orb Mod2 speakers
macharya Offline
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Registered: 01/03/05
Posts: 43
Yeah, the audio bug thing is interesting :-). I started looking at systems pretty recently - only about 2 months ago. In fact it started when I decided to do some research on Bose systems as I was ready to buy one (I know, I know!). Then learnt that there was a whole world of audio out there :-)

The speakers sound good (to my non-audiophile ears) using a Denon AVR-2105. Right now I don't have the option of getting bigger speakers due to space and aesthetic "requests" from my wife. And admittedly I also want the speakers to be somewhat invisible.

Down the road I might consider getting larger speakers, but for now the Orbs provide some great sound.

I am still fascinated by the Outlaw based on reviews I have read and will pull the trigger soon. I think the 950/7100 might be the way to go for now. It'll probably be very "bright", but till I try them, I won't know...

Do appreciate all the feedback and comments - this is by far the most interesting site I have seen!

-Mukund

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#27276 - 01/26/05 10:27 AM Re: Outlaw 950/7100 combo with Orb Mod2 speakers
macharya Offline
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Registered: 01/03/05
Posts: 43
Quote:
Originally posted by Jason J:
OT but maybe applicable:

First off, it may have been my connection, but not a single link worked for me just now on the orb site. Weird...

Second, how are they not getting sued by Anthony Gallo? www.roundsound.com
Jason - Not sure of the details, but I read somewhere, probably from Gallo's website that Gary Pelled (Orb) and Anthony Gallo (Gallo) worked together at some point and Pelled invested in Gallo's company. So they do share some history. In any case, both products appear to be well regarded and I haven't heard of patent infringment issues around them.

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