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#25894 - 05/25/04 02:29 PM Re: Outlaw 950 or Sherwood Newcastle P-965
gonk Offline
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Shawn

Your sixteenth post will make you a gunslinger. And the information about OSD through component is pretty interesting.

I think demoing the 950 is a fine idea -- it still packs a lot of value. Let us know what you think when you've got it hooked up.

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#25895 - 05/25/04 02:30 PM Re: Outlaw 950 or Sherwood Newcastle P-965
JT Clark Offline
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Wow. I first signed on not too long after it was released.

To become a Gunslinger you need more posts. I forget how many though. Post count means nothing anyway.

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#25896 - 05/25/04 02:41 PM Re: Outlaw 950 or Sherwood Newcastle P-965
bestbang4thebuck Offline
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Aww, c'mon guys! Why didn't you tell Shawn he had to perform many dastardly Outlaw deeds and be nominated by at least fifteen notorious Gunslingers?

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#25897 - 05/25/04 06:23 PM Re: Outlaw 950 or Sherwood Newcastle P-965
Jeff Mackwood Offline
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You mean they've dropped the initiation ceremony? Dang!

Well, as Groucho once said: "I wouldn't want to belong to any club that would have me as a member".

Jeff Mackwood
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#25898 - 05/25/04 07:59 PM Re: Outlaw 950 or Sherwood Newcastle P-965
curegeorg Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by shawnb16:
One of the reasons that I was leaning towards the P965 was the OSD display through the component outputs however I just read (I'll try to find the link)that all the new processors and recievers that upconvert all signals to component will display through component output but only at 480i, anything higher and no display, that includes volume. So if you're watching High Def or progressive scan DVD (which is 95% of my viewing) there is no OSD through component outputs.
Other than that I'm sure the Cirrus surround modes will do about the same job as DPLIIx. This leaves no real reason not to give the 950 an audition, especially when I can do the 950 and 7100 for about the price of the P965 alone. Off to the order page, I'll let you know how things work out.


i doubt this is true considering they have hd bandwidth, that would be pointless if they couldnt. my denon 3805 upconverts to component, perhaps ill try to pass progressive scan dvd or hdtv through it tomorrow. or maybe just read the manual :-). ill post again.
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#25899 - 05/25/04 09:20 PM Re: Outlaw 950 or Sherwood Newcastle P-965
gonk Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by curegeorg:
i doubt this is true considering they have hd bandwidth, that would be pointless if they couldnt. my denon 3805 upconverts to component, perhaps ill try to pass progressive scan dvd or hdtv through it tomorrow. or maybe just read the manual :-). ill post again.


I haven't dug through manuals yet to check on this (the Sherwood's manual isn't available online, so I can't check it, but your Denon's manual is). The problem would lie not with the bandwidth, but with the ability to process the HD signal to add the OSD information. That's a very complex task, and one that must be done flawlessly to avoid signal degradation that would negate the value of the component switching. From what I read a couple years ago, the first pre/pros to include OSD on component were forced to completely disable the source image and replace it with a blank blue screen in order to display any OSD data at all (this was obviously intended for on-screen configuration, not convenience volume display during movie viewing).

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#25900 - 05/25/04 10:32 PM Re: Outlaw 950 or Sherwood Newcastle P-965
Garrett Adams Offline
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Registered: 09/03/02
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Somewhere on the AVS threads Jeff provided a link to the manual as well as the brochure. I have both.

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#25901 - 05/25/04 11:02 PM Re: Outlaw 950 or Sherwood Newcastle P-965
Garrett Adams Offline
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Registered: 09/03/02
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To save time for any interested parties here is a link to my PDF copies.

http://home.comcast.net/~gmfadams/files/brochure.zip

http://home.comcast.net/~gmfadams/files/manual.zip

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#25902 - 05/25/04 11:32 PM Re: Outlaw 950 or Sherwood Newcastle P-965
harp795 Offline
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Registered: 03/04/02
Posts: 104
Loc: Louisville, KY
"The have a lousy website and their dealer locater has been under repair forever."

I sure hope their product is better than their website. Otherwise, your Sherwood preamp might be "under repair forever" Go with the 950 and prepare to be impressed.
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#25903 - 05/26/04 01:03 AM Re: Outlaw 950 or Sherwood Newcastle P-965
Majestyk Offline
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Registered: 04/21/04
Posts: 4
Loc: Vancouver, Canada
Who cares about the web site. Jeff Hipps, VP of Sherwood Marketing, posts on both The Home Theater & AVS Forum's just about everyday. I've been emailing him all week about a Sherwood amp of mine (no it's not broken). He's emailed me back every single day, including Sunday! If you have any questions, just post a question or you can email him. He posts under Stereojeff at AVS and under his own name on HTF.


Jeff



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