yes, i was mistaken. ignore my posts on the sherwood, other than the part of them being junk. i was thinking of the sherbourne pre/pro, not anything by sherwood. sorry for the increased confusion.

[This message has been edited by curegeorg (edited May 21, 2004).]

If you don’t know the difference between Sherbourn and Sherwood Newcastle your opinion as to the Newcastle quality is meaningless.

i know the difference, moron, i just accidentally thought the old pre/pro i was thinking of was sherwood. sherbourn and sherwood and not too far different from one another name wise. and to admit ones mistake, does not invalidate everything else said by him.

point taken admin.

[This message has been edited by curegeorg (edited May 21, 2004).]

Let me take a minute from scowling at fire codes to play referee here. Alas, I doubt I can be as effective as SLL would be at this...

That people have gotten confused between Sherwood and Sherbourn is unfortunate, but not necessarily surprising on a forum that is provided by a third unrelated company and largely populated by owners of that company's equipment. Be that as it may, we've now sorted it all out and it is time to move on. There is no benefit to be gained from harping on the confusion or from hurling insults. Everybody just chill out.

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[This message has been edited by gonk (edited May 21, 2004).]

This is a fair warning from your administrator. We welcome spirited discussion but frown on insults. Anyone who does not abide by the saloon rules is subject to removal from this forum.

sbcgroup1,

One last feature of the Sherwood Newcastle P-965 and then I’m out of here.

All the inputs can be labeled on Pre/Pro and the remote control. The label can be anything up to 8 characters.

I'll throw in a couple comments about the P-965. I've had this thing for a month and I finally got around to hooking it up a few days ago. I have to say, since having a home theater since 1996, I now have the most incredible sound I have ever heard coming through my speakers. I can't get over the detail, accuracy and seperation of this thing. I've been playing my demo discs and hearing things I've never heard before.

I should also mention that this is the quietest pre/pro I have ever owned. I've never had an HT setup so hiss and hum free since my receiver days back in the mid 90's. There is literally no noise floor what so ever. I have to press my ear against my speaker cover to hear a little tinny tweeter hiss that stays constant no matter where the volume is set; and my Paradigms are very sensitive to noise.

I'll comment further once I use it more, and I'm only running five channels at the momment, so I can't say anything about the DPLIIx at this time.


Jeff

PS: In all fairness to the Outlaw guys, I haven't tried the 950. I came to the Saloon to read about the new Outlaw gear. My further comments about the P-965 will be on AVS.



[This message has been edited by Majestyk (edited May 24, 2004).]

Jeff,

I agree that the P-965 is so clean and quite that you can hear grass grow and has a much bigger sound stage than the 950 it replaced.

If there is no difference why do all DAC manufacturers use over-sampling? Maybe because of noise generated by the brick-wall filter at 22kHz?

I finally got around to checking the Digital Re-Mastering feature on the P-965 and it does sound different when engaged. For Redbook CD audio I prefer the increased soundstage and more detailed high frequency with Digital re-Mastering to 24/192.