Greetings all,

I want to hear from ALL of you, your opinions about Interconnects , 5.1 and, subwoofer cables while using the 1070.

The PCA outlaw cables look nice, I am thinking about them. I also like to compare 2-3 brands. The number 2 choice is BetterCables.com Silver Serpent and number 3 is Cobalt Cables.

Let me hear everyone please , your pros and cons about cables.

Liz

I have used cables from Outlaw, U Do It Electronics, Monster and Blue Jeans. I especially like the locking banana plugs speaker wire from Blue Jeans and the balanced interconnects and optical cables from Outlaw.

I have recently upgraded most of my cables and, after a lot of research, settled on DH Labs Silver Sonics. They make a very wide product line, from silver coated OFC all the way up to solid silver interconnect. Though I still have a few links to go, right now I'm using their BL-1 interconnect for CD to my 970. For the 970 preamp out (not an issue if you have the 1070) I'm using their Studio Pro interconnect which I terminated myself with their Ultimate RCA Connectors. Lastly, just as an FYI, I'm using two sets of their T-14 speaker cables to the high and low terminals on my Quads.

I have really, really liked everything I've tried from DH Labs so far and would highly recommend them. My brother recently purchased a pair of their Revelation silver interconnects for his Linn CD player. He loves them, but they're pushing the envelope for my price range. Alternatively, they make a solid core silver cable for the DIYer you can order from partsconnexion and terminate yourself (should your interest run towards solid silver). I may take a whack at building a pair of those in the near future for my phono stage.

For sub, I use the CatCables CoolCat sub cable and prefer it over the Dayton Audio cable I used previously.

I think you'll find there are a million products out there that all have their own loyal following. I personally like the DH labs because they are neutral, open and airy and are not insanely priced. Lastly, being able to order the cable in bulk and terminate it yourself adds some costs savings.

Liz':

One more point... Cables are a great way of manipulating the sound of your system. For example, do you need to do something corrective? (i.e. a system that is too bright? Too veiled?). Or additive? (i.e. more bass). Or are things, to quote Baby Bear, "just right?" (meaning you want neutral cables).

It used to be that you could go to your local hifi store and borrow a few cables to see what you like. But in the days of Internet retailers, those options are harder to find, so I would strongly suggest you Google a few brands you are looking at for reviews. You can also click over to the Cable Asylum at www.audioasylum.com and do a search for a specific cable make/model for user reviews. Another good source is audioreview.com.

Bottom line is, cable are VERY system specific and, unless you have an opportunity to try things in your own system before purchase, you would be wise to do a little homework up front to minimize the chance you'll pick a cable that does not suit your electronics and speakers.

Lizard King,
another place to try is Signal Cable.com . I just installed a pair a of bi-wire speaker cables. Very nice construction and I am really liking the sound. I replaced DYI CAT5.
I am going to try the analogs next - reasonable price. The site is relatively free of cazy "snake oil" claims and also sites electrical spec. Which you can compare to reviews on places like audioholics.com

I also have several pairs of PCA's from Outlaw. Nice cables. i have a couple where the skin is pulling away from the plug - though.

I have heard good thing from Blue Jeans cables and River Cables. Where River cables might be a little more expensive.
I stay away from monster. It is all right and will work in a pinch. but there is so much more for the same or lower price.

IMHO, quality cables are a must, but i would not go so far and say they are sytem specific.
... So have fun on your quest for cables and keep asking questions....
Later

Just to clarify what I mean by system specific, let me lay out a scenario based on cables we used to sell during my retail days (forgive the references to older products):

Customer 1 (Steve) walks into the store and buys a pair of Apogee speakers and a Conrad Johnson tube amp. Being that both products tended to be on the warm / dark side of the frequency spectrum, a cable that counterbalanced those qualities, such as products made by Straight Wire, would be just the ticket. I'd recommend a pair of Music Ribbon speaker cables and one of their interconnects.

Customer 2 (Dave) walks in and buys a pair of Martin Logan CLS and a Motif amplifier. Now, both of those products are very revealing and extended in the highs, so the Sraight Wire products would make the amp / speaker combo sound way too bright and strident. To counterbalance this combo's tendency to be too bright and fatiguing, I would recommend a pair of MIT 330 interconnects and MIT Music Hose speaker cables.

Why? Compared to the Straight Wire products, the MIT products are more warm, liquid and rolled off on top. I would correct the problems with the amp speaker combo by using cables that worked well for the tonal qualities unique to that specific system.

Dave calls Steve and says he has GOT to try the great new MIT cables he bought. So he brings them over, hooks them up to Steve's system and... they sound like crap compared to the Straight Wires. Steve thinks Dave got ripped off and has hearing problems. In actuality, both guys have good cables for their systems, but they don't perform well in each other's, as their speakers and electronics have such different sonic signatures.

Thanks for the responses. I do not wish to do a DYI project as that is not my strenght. I will use either Outlaw PCA, BetterCables Silver Serpents , or Cobalt Cables. As I learn more about design and enginerring, the more I belive these three will work and I have no need for exotic brands.

TMDLP, those signal cable cables look nice. Do you use them and if so, what are your recommendations?

Liz

L. king,
I am impressed w/ signal cable. Good construction and nice terminations. I picked up the "Ultra" speaker cables and had bi-wire termination. Bananas to spades for connections.
They have found a home in the system. I would buy from them again. Probably when i set up a dedicated 2 channel system.

Overall, keep asking the questions, hang in places like this forum and your question will be answered.
PCA's: Start w/ places like Outlaw, Axiom, Blue Jeans, etc .... as they provide good quality products and go from there.

IMHO: Speaker cable from Blue Jeans, Axiom, or signal Cable (etc) will give you years of satisfaction and the most out of your equipment with out breaking the wallet. When you move out of this price range and go up, it is all very personal and a lot of marketing.

TmDLP

Hi TMDLP,

The signal cable looks decent. Now I will add them to my list: 1) Outlaw, 2) BetterCables Silver Serpent, 3) Cobalt Cables and Signal Cable.

Anyone hear use the PCA, silver serpent and Cobalt Interconnects and can she some light?

Liz

Hi TMDLP,

I spoke with Frank Dai at Signal cable today. I am thinking about the silver cables for the stereo inputs from my Denon 3930Ci to the hope to be soon, Outlaw 1070. I like that he uses the bullet RCA's. I may wnat to try both the silver and the better copper ones. Have you used these yet?

Liz

L.King,
I have not had the chance to use any analog yet. But i am planning in the short future to give the silver a test run.

Hi tmdlp,

I am probably going to order the silver resolution and try them when I order a 1070. For the 2 channel, I feel they be great. I do not see myself using multiple cables of that type due to high cost. I am curious to know about the analog Two type. What I like is that Frank uses the Bullet RCA plugs and I belive they will sound a little bit better than nornal RCA BS plugs.

I am still leaning towards Outlaw PCA for multi-channel. For my sub, I am torn between Outlaw PCA, Bettercables Silver serpent single RCA with Bullet plug or a signal cable.

BTW, i have a brand new Denon 3930CI. My good buddy has a Denon 2910 and that is a great unit. Since you use a Denon, i really want to know what you settle on since they should be simailr as wil have Denons and outlaw amp (1070 soon for me).

Liz