I saw the Onkyo 805 today for $650 shipped...

...getting tough waiting...

Can anyone from management let us know SOMETHING else? I understand the need for some confidentiality, and i know "its coming", but I fear that the complete blackout of info is making some people look elsewhere for a pre-pro. There is obvious demand, since Onkyo cant make the DTC 9.8 units fast enough, and the fact that many of the other manufacturers have half-baked implementations.

I'm willing to wait, but some info, please???

I wouldn't count on information, for two reasons. One, they were relatively forthcoming with the Model 950, and they got roasted for it because of delays that pushed the schedule back. Two, if the rumors of delays getting the DSP chip are accurate, they may be very uncomfortable offering any sort of schedule (see reason one for an explanation). I know it's not what any of us want to hear, and I'll bet that they'd love to be shipping HDMI v1.3 products right now, but there's likely some very good reasons.

I wouldn't be a bit surprised if sales were suffering at this point, but truthfully there are only three options for looking elsewhere that will get you HDMI v1.1+: get a receiver with pre-amp outputs and HDMI v1.3 support (which can be had for at or a bit below the price of a 990), get an Integra 9.8 or Onkyo 885 (for more money than the 990), or get an Anthem AVM40/AVM50/D2 (a lot more than the 990, and HDMI v1.1 only).

I have to admit, I'm getting a bit restless myself. Why, I'm not sure. I have my HD-XA2 connected via the analog 7.1 and it's fantastic. However, the 4x2 HDMI matrix switching capability of the Onkyo PRSC885P is very appealing. I would love to reduce my cable count. And I'm a bit intrigued by the Audessy stuff.

Trying to hang on for the new Outlaw...getting tough though.

Actually the Onkyo TX-SR705, 805, 875, NR905, and PR-SC885P all have HDMI 1.3 with pre-outs with all the new codecs.

The 705, 805, 875, and 905 are four of the receivers I was thinking of with my first statement ("get a receiver with pre-amp outputs and HDMI v1.3 support"); there are some Denons available now that also fall into that category, I beleive. My main point was that the PR-SC885P and its cousin the Integra 9.8 are the only processors I've heard about that are v1.3. There are a few HDMI v1.1 processors available, but they are fairly well removed from Outlaw's price range.

Actually Rotel and NAD both make HDMI audio processors (no decoding) for around two grand.

I wonder if Outlaw could post a picture, similar to what S.N. did. I know looks are n't everything but it would sure eliminate that part of our curiosity.

Yes the new Outlaw Receivers, and Pre-Pro are HDMI 1.3 units without the next gen decoding. Surprisingly NAD made these units Modular just so the decoding board could be pulled and replaced with the new board when it becomes available. The upgradability of these new NADs would be awesom to see Outlaw do the same.

Is anyone else hearing of a June release window for this?