#20210 - 03/12/08 05:13 AM
Re: when is new 990 or 970 coming out?
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Gunslinger
Registered: 05/09/06
Posts: 99
Loc: Chicago - W. Suburbs, IL
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We now have a timeframe for the Cirrus 49700 (audio DSP) delivery - early April. http://emotivalounge.proboards54.com/ind...ge=1#1205273399 Knowing the Outlaws, they will be more conservative with their time frame (to allow for more testing). I would not expect the 970 replacement before August ... the 990 replacement, even later.
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#20211 - 03/12/08 12:09 PM
Re: when is new 990 or 970 coming out?
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Desperado
Registered: 03/21/01
Posts: 14054
Loc: Memphis, TN USA
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Two months to go from receiving first samples to shipping hardware to customers sounds pretty optimistic. If the chips ship to manufacturers in April, I would be impressed to see anyone get the chip integrated into a design and thoroughly tested before July (assuming there were no major problems encountered and they'd somehow debugged everything else already - something that is difficult for small manufacturers to do because they can't do external testing with a DSP-less product), at which point you still have to manufacture and bring hardware state-side. That may just be my prior experience with delivery dates, though (speaking not of any specific company, but in general - I've seen delays from Outlaw, OPPO, Yamaha, Sherwood, AV123, and so on and so on).
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#20212 - 03/12/08 04:34 PM
Re: when is new 990 or 970 coming out?
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Gunslinger
Registered: 05/09/06
Posts: 99
Loc: Chicago - W. Suburbs, IL
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Emotiva is currently saying June. I'll be VERY surprised if they can get it to customer houses before the end of July...
As of now, they have a prototype (using CS 49500) that is running fine. It has an AMAZING feature set for that price. Of course, the prototype cannot do D THD and DTS MA decoding natively.
I am sure that a LOT of things need to be done when you replace that chip with the CS49700. I just don't see that happening in so short a time.
I have no idea where Outlaw is with their processor(s). Hence, the forecast of August as the EARLIEST delivery date. Hopefully, the Outlaws will put us out of misery and come up with a rough release date (based on April chip delivery)...
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#20213 - 03/12/08 05:09 PM
Re: when is new 990 or 970 coming out?
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Desperado
Registered: 03/21/01
Posts: 14054
Loc: Memphis, TN USA
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Originally posted by sb-avnut: Emotiva is currently saying June. I'll be VERY surprised if they can get it to customer houses before the end of July... That was almost exactly my initial reaction as well. No matter how stable other portions of the product are, too much has to pass through the DSP to just slap it in and crank up the production lines. Heck, I had a beta sample of the 983H in my equipment rack for over three months, and the hardware on that was finalized for at least two of those months. Sure, there's a greater pressure to get to completion, but there's always plenty of pressure in that regard. I sincerely hope that we can start seeing 49700-based products on the market by early August (if not sooner), but I'm not going to count on it.
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#20214 - 03/12/08 11:59 PM
Re: when is new 990 or 970 coming out?
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Gunslinger
Registered: 01/15/06
Posts: 215
Loc: Big D, Tx
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All, Besides the basic chips (DSP,etc.), test, design, etc... the manufacture must have all of the parts required lined up plus boards for the parts to go on. Not to mention specifications - especial for any new items - electrically, physically, measurement limits, etc.....
I would think there would be dependence on how lean Outlaws process flows - the entire path. There is also Customs requirement that adds to the time frame.....
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#20215 - 03/29/08 01:52 AM
Re: when is new 990 or 970 coming out?
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Gunslinger
Registered: 06/18/02
Posts: 50
Loc: Outside
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If they are going to use the platform that Sherwood plans on using, then July/August is likely.
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#20216 - 03/29/08 10:38 AM
Re: when is new 990 or 970 coming out?
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Gunslinger
Registered: 05/09/06
Posts: 99
Loc: Chicago - W. Suburbs, IL
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SN R-972 went from Jan 07 announcement of a Aug 07 release, to Jan 08 release to now a June 08 release.
SN is notorious for being very late on their releases. I would not expect the R-972 before Dec 08. Their pre-pro would take even longer as it add a few more "features".
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#20218 - 03/30/08 10:14 PM
Re: when is new 990 or 970 coming out?
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Gunslinger
Registered: 01/19/06
Posts: 266
Loc: Tauranga, New Zealand
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I'm looking forward to Outlaw making an announcement. I hope the update the look. I like the look of the RR 2150. I think a retro look with a modern receiver would be cool.
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