What is your source for this? Everything they've said to date points to having ALL of the next gen codecs. Otherwise, why bother? In fact, the delay they have talked about due to chip supplier seems to specifically invovle something needed to get the new codecs.

I haven't heard any windows at all, June or otherwise...
Good point, PodBoy. The only information that I've seen has been Outlaw's October "double down" newsletter, where the specifically stated that their next gen gear would be HDMI v1.3 and would have all of the new decoders. After all, why else have HDMI v1.3?

I agree with PodBoy. If there is no support for the new audio codecs, what's the point, but I don't recall seeing anything from the Outlaws that indicates they aren't looking to the future.

I'm sorry I put "Outlaw Receivers," when I was talking about the new NAD receivers and Pre-Pro.

Which all don't have NextGen Audio decoding but are HDMI 1.3 compliant. The units are modular and the nextgen decoding board is supposed to be availabe in August now according to a NAD rep.

This is the same I'm hearing the new Sherwood Newcastle P-972 (their replacement for the P965).

If Outlaw is using Etronics again, then I'd expect the unit to be out before the P-972. So July?

Is there any update on the Cirrus chip that will go into the next gen pre-pros and receiver? Is it out of sampling and into production yet? Has any deliveries be made to the the CE manufactureres?

I totally understand Outlaw not pre-releasing information on their forthcoming HD receiver, but I'd sure like to know an estimated release date.

I'm planning on upgrading my father's home theatre with a new projector and in the process would like to go strait to HD across the board.

We currently have a receiver running his MK-S150 system and I'd like to use a pre/pro combo like I have. I figured whatever next generation preprocessor Outlaw comes out with and the model 7700 amp. The only hesitation I have is the lack of THX support, but I'm sure that's do to prohibitive licensing expenses (is it really worth the extra cost). However, THX would be a nice "option."

So I hope they announce something in the near future, because I've enjoyed my Outlaw experience and firmly believe they add a ton value for the price, but I'd like to get something by summer time.

Retep wrote:

The only hesitation I have is the lack of THX support, but I'm sure that's do to prohibitive licensing expenses (is it really worth the extra cost). However, THX would be a nice "option."

I don't think others will disagree with the following: THX was (maybe) important back then, when....

Now it is not. Not for HT. Maybe maybe in movie theaters...though I don't know. All the formats that I have seen on Blu-Ray and HD-DVD are Dolby-D, DTS, PCM (stereo digital) and some new ones coming out.

So I think not needed.

Come to think of it, I haven't seen many home movies with THX. I think I mainly have a bug in my butt because the speakers are THX certified and I think it would be cool to have a fully THX system. But then if there's no content, what's the point.

Retep wrote:

But then if there's no content, what's the point.

I don't really know if there is no content for sure.
I just haven't noticed any, nor have I missed it, having dts and DD and others available.

I have two outlaw systems:two 990s, a 7700 and an older 755. I'm a "happy camper" without THX.

I second nfaguys' take on this: THX was valuable at one time, but the benefits today are much reduced - especially considering the price premium that would be associated with it.
THX doesn't have "content" as far as home theater users are concerned - even THX-certified titles don't include any different data, they just have been through an evaluation process designed to verify audio and video quality. THX certification of surround processors does include some additional processing modes, but that operates the same was as Pro Logic II/IIx or Logic7 does - applied downstream of basic Dolby Digital or DTS decoding.
If you have THX certified speakers, that tells you where to set your crossover: 80Hz. That's about as much synergy as you'll get between processor (THX or otherwise) and THX speakers.