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#19788 - 09/18/07 03:08 AM Re: Next Gen 990 suggestions
monkeyplasm Offline
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Registered: 06/18/07
Posts: 20
Loc: Tennessee
Since there is a metric crap load of settings for every channel from every input for every day of the week...

It would be nice to have some built in flash memory (or a usb port that can rear/write to a thumb drive) to store all these settings and have them recalled at will...

For when your experimentation goes awry or you need to do a hard reset...

Maybe even several 'slots' in which to store all these settings.

That is all.

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#19789 - 09/18/07 12:24 PM Re: Next Gen 990 suggestions
nfaguys Offline
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Registered: 04/09/05
Posts: 500
Loc: Maine
monkeyplasm has a great suggestion. There is something that stores settings inside the box. While I don't know what it is or what the format storage is, I can't imagine a great added expense in providing access to this. Might need to be a separate USB "port".
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#19790 - 10/16/07 08:45 PM Re: Next Gen 990 suggestions
BloggingITGuy Offline
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Registered: 02/20/06
Posts: 446
Loc: Beaverton, Oregon
Way back in the beginning of the thread we talked about coming out with a modular chassis ala Integra Research's RDC-7.1.

The idea for Outlaw would probably be a complete flop...Onkyo is discontinuing support for their modular chassis receivers and preamps. There will be no HDMI 1.3 upgrade path for those that own an RDC-7.1 or the two similar receivers that Onkyo sold.

Outlaw would have to use an OEM based modular chassis and hope that support for it remained for a length of time. Plus from a business standpoint it's just better to come out with new pieces every 2 to 3 years and have people replace them completely as opposed to have them spend a few hundred dollars here and there.

It seems like modularity would be a good marketing idea, but it certainly doesn't really allow for long term upgradeability. At least not that we've seen in the marketplace.

Oh and for all those that shelled out $4000 to $5000 on an RDC-7.1. Onkyo will allow you to trade it in for an Integra DTC-9.8 if you pay them $700.

OK so you give up a preamp that is worth ~$2000 used in base form (no additional modules) and have to pay $700 for a $1600 preamp?

What a joke.

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#19791 - 10/17/07 12:23 AM Re: Next Gen 990 suggestions
gonk Offline
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Registered: 03/21/01
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Loc: Memphis, TN USA
The changes that we're seeing happen for HDMI v1.3 are so far-reaching that I'm not surprised at this. Oh, well...
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#19792 - 02/13/08 11:38 PM Re: Next Gen 990 suggestions
mcfrid Offline
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Registered: 07/26/02
Posts: 5
Loc: san diego, CA
I think "Dolby Volume" would be a nice feature as long as it can be turned on/off. Not sure if it will be commercially available by preamp release time? Upgrade at a later date?

http://www.audioholics.com/news/trade-sh...lume-technology

I would love to tame the erratic volume from commercials and channel surfing

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#19793 - 02/13/08 11:52 PM Re: Next Gen 990 suggestions
gonk Offline
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I read a bit about Dolby Volume in the coverage of this year's CES, and I agree that it could be handy. It would certainly need to be a user-selectable feature, of course, and selectable on a per-input basis (use it for cable, satellite, or broadcast TV but not for music sources and possibly not for DVD or Blu-ray/HD-DVD sources). As of CES2008, I think that it was running on a modified Onkyo receiver, so I don't know if anybody is yet offering it in production hardware, but if it were available for inclusion it would be cool to have...
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#19794 - 04/03/08 12:42 AM Re: Next Gen 990 suggestions
lotus_j Offline
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Registered: 06/18/02
Posts: 50
Loc: Outside
I pulled back my "latest," Pre-Pro and it has no composite or S-Video devices attached to it.

Making a unit without these out-dated connections would actually SAVE Outlaw some money that could be put towards something interesting.

By not having composite/S-Video "upconversion," they save even more money.

I'd do without them COMPLETELY.

Be the first company with only component and HDMI inputs. Make a statement.

Then sell a seperate "Composite, S-Video, Component," to HDMI converter box for the people that "have," to have this archeic technology.

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#19795 - 04/03/08 03:30 AM Re: Next Gen 990 suggestions
gonk Offline
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Registered: 03/21/01
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Loc: Memphis, TN USA
This suggestion surfaces fairly regularly, and I agree that the time will come when we see composite and s-video go away. I don't know that Outlaw would be wise to be the ones to make a statement by omitting it, though - they are focused on the "bang for the buck" market, and as such are likely to continue to have a wide mix of customers and customer equipment.

My preference would be to see far fewer of these types of inputs along with more focus on HDMI and on flexibility in input configuration. This would allow those legacy devices to continue to survive while acknowledging the trend of more and more equipment moving to HDMI or at least component. As long as you have analog video of some sort present (which is still a necessity, I think, as component video's not ready to disappear just yet), you're going to need some sort of transcoding capability, so there's not likely to be a cost impact there.
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#19796 - 04/03/08 11:44 AM Re: Next Gen 990 suggestions
nfaguys Offline
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Registered: 04/09/05
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Loc: Maine
Some of us who use HDMI also find it useful and necessary to have at least composite. I could do without S-Video. In order to not have to switch from the HDMI program to make adjustments on my 990 I have a compposite cheap monitor running.

Recording of material from satellite (composite outputs) requires a DVD recorder with composite input. Also the zone 2 functions require analog all the way.

A request to outlaw: Keep the nice cheap analogs.
_________________________
Living Room:
5.1 Surround and 4channel inline room
990/7700/6-KEF-107s/LFM1 x 2/ SMS Awaiting Trinnov
Millenium dts decoder;Digital Director
Players: Tascam CD01U/SonyCX455 x 3/DV955/BDP83
Old Sony 60" SXRD TV
Zone 2 (also liv-Room: listening to music while Mrs watches TV): Crown SL2 preamp/D40 Amp/Stax Headphones



My "Man-cave":
4 channel-only inline room. No TV (thank heaven)!!!
990/755/4-KEF 107s
Tascam CD01U/dts decoder/digital director
Alesis 16x4x2 mixer
Recorders Alesis HD24/ML9600/Crown CX844s/SonyDAT/Tascam DA38
Ham Radio Shack (KB1STH) ICOM/Yaesu/Drakes x 3

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#19797 - 06/07/08 04:59 AM Re: Next Gen 990 suggestions
Sniffer Offline
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Registered: 05/11/05
Posts: 22
Loc: Las Vegas, NV
A simple suggestion...please add "wireless" g/n capability so I can hook it in to my wireless network. That way the unit can upgrade itself overnight.

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