So what is the status of the new 1050? any new NEWS?

I bet outlaw is losing $$ because of this... Sigh, I wonder how many people that can't afford 800 bucks plus another 800 for pre amp are taking dollars else where? Oh well...

The last newsletter went out in early February. I'd expect another one between now and tax day.

I got the impression from the announcement of the 1050's retirement that they did it knowing it would be mid-2004 at the earliest before a replacement was available. New product development time for a small company like Outlaw (especially with a product as complex as a surround sound receiver) is a big deal, and they want to make sure they have the new receiver done right before they unveil it. Oh, and expect them to be pretty tight-lipped about it until they have beta samples in their hot little hands; they gave us lots of info about the 950 during its development and ended up getting burned because people got impatient for it.

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Has there been any new word on the replacement 1050?

Sorry if it's been brought up before.

Thanks!

No new info so far but I can’t wait to see what they come up with. I still don’t see how Outlaw can release a new receiver with all the latest features like ProLogic IIx and others without releasing a big brother to the 950 at the same time. It would be like cutting there own throats (financially) to release a better (read more features) receiver than there current high end Pre/Pro. Am I the only one who noticed this problem? Hopefully they will release both new products this year Just my .02

Lasher

I'd noticed that, too, but figured it would work out better than any other approach to replacing the 1050. The 1050's replacement will arrive this year, but I doubt a big brother or successor to the 950 will show up until next year (and I do think that timeline -- receiver in 2004, pre/pro a year or so later around late 2005 or early 2006 -- is fairly likely, although I have no evidence to back that up). Will that order hurt Outlaw? If anything, it will help overall (and the reverse would have hurt, since the 1050 was clearly ready to be retired and the 950 still has some a good run left in it). A PLIIx receiver in the tradition of the 1050 would not necessarily invalidate the 950. PLIIx by itself isn't adding a lot, especially for anyone using 5.1 or 6.1 speaker systems. If they do incorporate a significant number of the features that 950 owners have suggested, there will very likely be some cannibilization of 950 sales in favor of the new receiver as pre/pro or in favor of 950/7100 sets, but the 950 will still have a market -- and their return to the receiver market should more than balance out any reduction in 950 sales.

Plus it's likely going to be a great tease for what we might see in their next pre/pro...

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Hi Gonk,

I just read this thread. What do we know so far, and what has Outlaw said so far, about this future receiver?

Will

Taken directly from the Mid-Fall 2003 newsletter:



Summary: new design receiver with a feature set that will at least fit in with the current market, expected no earlier than mid-year and very likely closer to year-end.

Fairly safe assumptions that have no basis in fact: Expect no additional official information until they are in a position to be conducting beta tests. Input options somewhere between the 1050 and 950 (probably more digital inputs than the 1050 had, probably no more inputs than the 950 offers), and once again no phono input. Take the processing modes found on the 950, presumably add Pro Logic IIx, perhaps toss aside CES because of the presence of PL IIx. Assume an amp section comparable to the 1050. Video switching probably similar to that included in the 950 (component switching is more common today than it was when the 1050 came out).

Wild guesses: Endless...

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I can almost see the marketing staff at Outlaw with grin on their faces while looking at this thread.

Just imagine the manager going, “This gonk guy, he knows too much! He’s jeopardizing our business. We gotta do something. Scott, you have his address?”

Anticipation, anxiety and even frustration. Makes it that much more exciting when it comes out. I wonder if Outlaw is using this psychology tactic…

Hi Gonk,

Thanks for the refering me to the Mid-Fall 2003 newsletter. But when I read it, it does not seem to say a new receiver will come out this year. I imagine that when Outlaw has a better idea of when it will come out, they'll be the first to let us know.

Do you think it will be another Eastech design, like before?

Will

Will - I was going from memory earlier (remembering the comment "middle of next year"). I do suspect that they would not call an end to the 1050 unless they had already made some decent progress on a replacement, which would match well with a mid- to late-2004 release window. As for whether they'll be using Eastech or not, I do not know. There is an existing relationship there, so it is certainly possible.

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Just got the latest Outlaw newsletter. It didn't mention any new product but did say Outlaw will be at the Home Entertainment Show in New York this month.

That sucks. I was hoping they would say something. I'm looking to replace my receiver this summer and I can wait to the end of the year if I could get some info about a new receiver from outlaw.

If they follow past patterns, we'll see a newsletter around the time of the HE show with details on whatever announcements they make at the show. Probably about two weeks from now?

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Damn.. how do you always do it, gonk?

I just got an email for the new newsletter. I'm assuming that the 1050 is what Outlaw's first product was (I can't remember) so that the update for the 1050 is one of the two new products. What does everyone think the other new product is? I'd say it could either be a front projector, or a universal DVD player finally, but those are just random guesses.

I'm not sure but I hope the replacement for the 1050 has component upconversion or it looks like denon for me.

I want that too, but how many units do have it nowadays?

Are there two products coming out sometime? I'd feel pretty safe guessing the 1050's replacement as one. For the other, what are the odds of a 950 replacement or more high-end version?

Sorry...wrong info...ignore



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The newsletter mentioned for sure a 1050 replacement - that's a given, but what about the other hint's. A high-end 950 doesn't make sense for their (Outlaws) market level and performance spec's as exhibited for other products. Related to cables - maybe a general purpose video switcher at a reasonable price - possible. My dream for the past 3 years has been a quality DLP projector at a reasonable price ($2K to $3K) and high-performance specs without the "bricks-and-mortar" stores mark-up - not likely. A versatile DVD video and audio player/recorder is a possibility.



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I just came from the HEexpo 2004 in New York and saw the Outlaw room. The three new items they unveiled where: 1) I believe the replacement for the 1050 - an av receiver with 75wpc,, 7.1, and has a DVI switcher built-in. Price was quoted as being less than $1000. 2) A 300wpc X 7 channel amp with balanced inputs. 3) A 2 channel amp specifically designed for audio.

Nice George! We're also discussing the products over here .