a good 2 channel amp would be nice... it would be great to power a couple of passive subs.

I agree. There is still a lot of life left in two-channel. A powerful, quality amp under $500 might be a winner. After all, Adcom and Parasound do it.

Wanting a good 2 ch amp to be used for sub amplification sounds contradictory, since the trend for sub amplification in the HT world seem to be get the amp with the highest wattage, no matter how it sounds.

So should the outlaw 2 ch amp go in the path of junks like Fidek or something of higher quality than their multichannel counterpart?

A 2channel amp would be nice for powering a big pair of mains. The bad thing about a 5channel amp is that alot of power ends up going two your surrounds. Well maybe some people don't want so much power going to their surrounds because maybe their surrounds can't take 200 watts of power.

Chris

You need a 2 channel amp with A+B option to drive external zones. It should interconnect nicely with the multi channel products and enable the user to select any playback unit for listening in any or all zones.

I like the idea of a two channel amp for powering mains. That way you could use your mains for listening to music and just power on the two channel amp, instead of powering three to five extra channels for no reason.

Agreed. Plus, you could afford to go with something a bit larger, say 350x2, while keeping with the 200x5 for the surrounds. You could put them on separate circuits so as not to have to worry about angering your fuse box.

I am looking for a good subwoofer amplifier myself. If you guys do go ahead and make a 2 channel amp, please make sure its bridgable and don't put all that crossover crap on it. I wanna do a servo feedback and throwing crossovers in there dorks around with the phase not to mention having like 16 Hz highpasses when the speaker will go down to 10 Hz. I have had problems when the output phase isn't about 0 degrees with the input phase. So try and make sure it doesn't mess up the phase also!!! <:

I'd think they would make it in line with their existing amps which, unless I'm mistaken, do nothing but amplify. No bells or whistles or useless gadgetry of any sort. Isn't that what the receiver/pre-pro is for?

Your preaching to the choir Owl. But go check out inexpensive amps, they always gotta throw in crossovers and stuff. I don't want to spend a few grand on a 2 channel subwoofer amplifier just to have the luxory of no junk on my amp. All I want is a decent well designed amp with no frills.

A good amp with no frills/clutter? I think we can count on Outlaw for that -- all three of their amps (the old 750 and the upcoming 770 and 755) have been exactly that. I don't see that changing. I don't know about bridgeable, though -- they haven't done anything like that on the multi-channel amps, but bridging on those is less common than on two-channel amps, so it is a possibility for an Outlaw two-channel.

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Gonk

I guess bridging isn't necessary, I could use the other channel for my center rear that I only have a pre-out for. Of course I would also have to get the go ahead from my wife to mount a speaker up in the middle of the room. I probably have a better chance of talking the Outlaws into bridging their amplifiers! <:

I would also be very interested in a simple 2 channel amp, but what about a 3 channel? I am not sure if it has been mentioned before, but that would be the next version I would like to see. Compared to the complexities of other product, it would seem not too difficult to offer these based off the current amps.

I would like to see a nice two channel amp to go with my 755. Maybe 300 watts per channel to drive a set of main speakers. I would have just bought a 770, but things didn't work out as planned. My next steps are a two channel amp, and then a 950 to replace the 1050.

This message is in response to Daryl on Mar 3. Please be aware that when recievers show that A-B selection , that doesn't mean that there are two descrete amps built in!! It's the same amp in series, Re: stable at 8ohms on A+B or 4 ohms on A or B, so just parallel those two pair of 8ohmers, same result and seperate V/C's will work descretely. I answer calls about this all day, and it is the most common misconception.
P.S. Niles make an awsome 2 ch amp that is stable at 2.66ohms(3pr.of 8ohm spks)100w RMS
Peace!!!

It's sometimes nice to have the switcher into the amp, though, rather than requiring an extra switch box.

A feature I wish more HT amps had. How about if you want to have dipole speakers in the rear for HT, and direct speakers for music? It'd be nice to have an A-B switch for that.

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Matthew J. Hill
matt@idsi.net

What about a nice monoblock? That way we can buy as many as we need....

Charlie

Charlie, Great idea. I hope the Outlaws are listening.

I agree on the monoblock idea - then one can get as many as needed. I see the trend for cheap pro amps for subs, but would like to get into large, clean home amps for my subs.

I can see it now: 500 watt Outlaw Mono - call it the Outlaw Model One

I'll take two!

I think you have hit on something,a 2 CH amp would be nice but a 300 watt monoblock amp, thats the ticket..

Yea!
Monoblocks are cool. They can solve every concieveble powerproblem.

Most of them on the market are relative upmarket products with big prizetags though.

Maybe the Outlaws could go about this in the simplest possible way and just shave a channel off one of their existing products, as was mentioned above.

\Anders

A nice 200 watt monoblock would be stellar! ~400 watts output on a 4 ohm load. 2 ohm stability.

12 Volt trigger

Bridgeable with another monoblock

Cool running temperature

100% true professional balanced circuitry and power topography with balanced XLR inputs. RCA input for backwards compatibility.

Substantial build quality with very low noise level.

Removable, heavy duty 20 amp plug.

The Sherbourn 1/300MB monoblock has XLR inputs, but is not a true balanced design, which is disappointing since you don't really get the benefits of balanced electronics.

We need a reasonably priced, quality monoblock that really is balanced. I don't want to have to pay a truck load for a Theta or a B.A.T. just to get a professional balanced amp!

Dan



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If they're going to come out with a monoblock I'd prefer to see it closer to the 400-500 watt output range... Two of those would drive my M80Ti's nicely. Of course they would have to "sound like" my 755 so that I have the option of buying a third monoblock, or using the 755 to drive the center.

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Matthew J. Hill
matt@idsi.net

Monoblocks????power...soundstage...detail....300watts....500watts...reservation list????? I am SOLD!!!!

The only "inexpensive" monoblock amps i have seen are by AudioSource. The reviews are mixed on some models however, and the company does not have anything near Outlaws customer support or users forum. I would welcome a monoblock amp by Outlaw. I plan on purchasing a 1050, but my 28+ years old speakers may not be efficient enough for the 1050 to drive them. They still sound great to my ears and if power is needed a pair of Monoblocks would be the perfect solution. In fact more could be added as finances allowed. This is my 1st post but let me say that I have greatly appreciated the info I have gained on HT by reading all the forums!

I would love to see a 2 ch or a mono block too, soon, I need more power then my 1050 has for my mains I fear and if Outlaw doesn't come out with somthing soon I'm going for a used NAD or Carver 2ch amp, any other ideas??

A 2 channel amp is a good idea I think. 200W/channel, $500 - $750?

I have 2 Acurus A200x3 amps now for 6 channels. If Outlaw did a 2 channel amp, I'd consider swapping what I have for the 2 channel plus the 755. I think having all 5 or 6 or 7 channels powered when listening to 2 channel stereo is a waste of power and electricity.

But then I'd also look for a specific 7.1 DSP mode in the "high end" process Outlaw puts out. THX Ultra2/Logic 7-ish.

Any new amp should have consideration given to the ability to bridge channels together.

I'd like to see a high-end quality 2-channel amplifier of at least 100 wpc into 8 Ohms with the capability of driving 2 Ohm loads.

I'd also like to see a matching quality 2-channel preamplifier.

There are still many of us 2-channel music lovers out there that would love to find a no-frills "Outlaw" system that would not break the bank -perhaps under $1,100 for the amp and preamp together.

Even an 2-channel integrated model (60 wpc would be acceptable, but at least 100 wpc would be preferred) would be welcomed for under $750.

To reference some of the competition in this segment, Arcam is currently offering a special system price on their DiVA A75 (50 wpc integrated amplifier), T61 (digital tuner), and CD72 (compact disc player) for a price under of $2k.

Keep on surprising us with your great values, you Outlaws!