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#18363 - 06/24/09 05:17 AM Re: OPPO Digital BDP-83 Blu-ray player - EAP and beyond
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#18364 - 06/24/09 12:42 PM Re: OPPO Digital BDP-83 Blu-ray player - EAP and beyond
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Registered: 05/09/05
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Gonk -- Thanks for these. Very clear and very helpful!

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#18365 - 06/24/09 01:25 PM Re: OPPO Digital BDP-83 Blu-ray player - EAP and beyond
ndskurfer Offline
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Registered: 05/27/08
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Loc: Bismarck, ND
Thank you gonk! I have the 970 and I see that I may need to experiment with my settings a bit more.

Have you had a chance to play around with the June 11 Beta firmware? I know you have a true Beta firmware, but wondering if there is a work around to get my lfe back. My understanding is that it resets after a power cycle, but the trim still reads +10. I was told that the work around is to simply work the trim on the same powercyle that you watch a movie, but I haven't had luck with that.

Thanks for all that you contribute here!

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#18366 - 06/24/09 07:52 PM Re: OPPO Digital BDP-83 Blu-ray player - EAP and beyond
Midnight Offline
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Registered: 09/24/08
Posts: 11
Loc: Utah
Thanks gonk! And I can't wait for experitise once the 997 comes.

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#18367 - 06/24/09 08:41 PM Re: OPPO Digital BDP-83 Blu-ray player - EAP and beyond
wolverine Offline
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Registered: 11/29/05
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Loc: Ann Arbor
Thanks gonk. Your guide means so far I managed to stumble through everything on my own! I do have a question you do not address.

Until now I have used the 990's full bass management for all sources with speakers set to small and crossed over. Now with the BDP-83 I have been trying out the stereo analog output from the BDP-83 to the 990's CD input and setting it to analog input and BYPASS when playing CDs and 2-channel programs on DVD-A and SACD. As you know if the sub is turned on, both the front speakers and the sub get full range signals when the 990 is set to BYPASS. This "double bass" is clearly noticeable when I switch to the digital coax line from the BDP-83 which does all the bass management properly.

When the 990 is set to BYPASS do the front and sub channel calibration levels in the 990 set-up have any effect or are those bypassed too? What about the 990's 2-ch sub trim in BYPASS?

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#18368 - 06/24/09 09:06 PM Re: OPPO Digital BDP-83 Blu-ray player - EAP and beyond
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Registered: 02/10/09
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Loc: Nebraska
Thanks Gonk!

The only thing I am stuck on is trying to match the volume of the sub through the 7.1 analog into my 970 so the applied settings on the SMS-1 are right...
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#18369 - 06/25/09 07:12 PM Re: OPPO Digital BDP-83 Blu-ray player - EAP and beyond
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Secrets has just posted its benchmark review of the BDP-83. Great for HDMI, a little less effusive if using component, but as they note, "OPPO has an out-of-the-ballpark grand slam home run. Highly Recommended."

http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/blu-ray-players/647-oppo-bdp-83-blu-ray-player.html

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#18370 - 06/25/09 07:35 PM Re: OPPO Digital BDP-83 Blu-ray player - EAP and beyond
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The component video output doesn't use the ABT chipset, so most of their attention went to the HDMI output. That's why I recommend in my setup guide that you use the HDMI output for video if at all possible. I suspect that there are opportunities to refine the video performance of the Mediatek chip's scaling and deinterlacing (which is solely responsible for the component video output), but it was never the priority. My suspicion is that they will end up being able to improve on that in the future, particularly if (when?) they develop a little brother to the BDP-83 that lacks the ABT2010 since such a player would use the Mediatek chip for both HDMI and component video outputs.
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#18371 - 06/25/09 11:40 PM Re: OPPO Digital BDP-83 Blu-ray player - EAP and beyond
sluggo Offline
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Registered: 04/19/05
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Just saw this today on AVS:

Quote:
Beginning in 2010, Blu-ray players must be configured to allow one full-resolution copy. Dubbed “managed copy,” the requirement has long been planned for the Blu-ray format, but has only just been finalized by the Advanced Access Content System License Administrator, a consortium of studios, hardware manufacturers and technology companies that licenses the AACS copy protection used on Blu-ray Discs. Managed copies can be made to recordable Blu-ray or DVD discs, as a download to a Windows Media DRM-compatible portable player or hard drive. Unfortunately none of the current batch of Blu-ray players or recorders have the required electronics to allow this. Manufacturers aren't expected to have this feature added to players until mid-2010.
Anyone know how AACS licensing might affect this being a firmware update in the future?

In any case, the language above (if true and accurate) seems to indicate that storage on media servers would be a possibility.
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#18372 - 06/26/09 04:17 AM Re: OPPO Digital BDP-83 Blu-ray player - EAP and beyond
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I'm not sure what will come of this, but having the support in players for copying to an outboard device would seem to be a bit clunky. Copying to BD-R or DVD-R would involve either BD recorders (which are common in Japan and available in several other markets but remain absent here in the states) or outboard DVD recorders with a compatible input (presumably HDMI). Copying to a media server would seem to be the more appealing option, though, and if you have a media server you would simply need a BD-ROM drive in it to allow the copy - no need for a standalone player that supports managed copy.
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