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#17683 - 05/27/08 08:25 AM Tubes Rule!
Lizard King Offline
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Registered: 08/30/06
Posts: 425
Loc: NY
Do NOT be a solid state FOOL!
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Outlaw 1070, Anthem MCA5 II amp.
Sony Ps3
Alon 2 Mk2 Loudspeakers
HSU VTF-2 Mk2 sub x2
VAC PA100/100 Tube Amp
ARC SP16-L tube Preamp
Audio Note Dac 2.1 "B" signature
Furutech E-TP80,
Ascend HTM-200, 340C
Sony KDS-55A2020

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#17684 - 05/27/08 02:56 PM Re: Tubes Rule!
bestbang4thebuck Offline
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"It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt." (Abraham Lincoln)

"Wise men, when in doubt whether to speak or to keep quiet, give themselves the benefit of the doubt, and remain silent." (Napolean Hill)

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#17685 - 05/27/08 03:43 PM Re: Tubes Rule!
psyprof1 Offline
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LK, care to share with us how much your Audio Research and VAC units cost?

Is it tubes that rule - or money?

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#17686 - 05/27/08 03:54 PM Re: Tubes Rule!
Lizard King Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by psyprof1:
LK, care to share with us how much your Audio Research and VAC units cost?

Is it tubes that rule - or money?
Hello, I bought these used as new ones are exorbantly overpriced.
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Outlaw 1070, Anthem MCA5 II amp.
Sony Ps3
Alon 2 Mk2 Loudspeakers
HSU VTF-2 Mk2 sub x2
VAC PA100/100 Tube Amp
ARC SP16-L tube Preamp
Audio Note Dac 2.1 "B" signature
Furutech E-TP80,
Ascend HTM-200, 340C
Sony KDS-55A2020

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#17687 - 05/27/08 04:53 PM Re: Tubes Rule!
tru blu Offline
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Registered: 09/04/06
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Loc: Brooklyn, NY
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I bought these used as new ones are exorbintly overpriced.
One question: Are they "overpriced" or "expensive"? I don't think those words mean the same thing. "Overpriced" implies that they cost more than they're actually worth, while my sense is that there are pieces of equipment which cost a lot and are worth every penny.
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#17688 - 05/27/08 07:09 PM Re: Tubes Rule!
Bill O Offline
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Registered: 08/14/06
Posts: 164
Loc: Missouri
[QUOTE]Originally posted by bestbang4thebuck:
[QB] "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt." (Abraham Lincoln)

I could be wrong, but I credit the above qoute to Samuel Clemens

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#17689 - 05/27/08 07:17 PM Re: Tubes Rule!
tru blu Offline
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Good catch! I wasn't sure, but I also thought that quote was from Mark Twain (Samuel Clemens' pen name).
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#17690 - 05/27/08 08:08 PM Re: Tubes Rule!
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Depending on where you look, a little research reveals that the quote is attributed to Lincoln, Clemens/Twain and several others, each apparently having a version of the biblical 'Proverbs 17:28'.

http://www.quotationring.net/mailarc/msg00363.html

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#17691 - 05/27/08 10:51 PM Re: Tubes Rule!
Lizard King Offline
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Posts: 425
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Quote:
Originally posted by tru blu:
Quote:
I bought these used as new ones are exorbintly overpriced.
One question: Are they "overpriced" or "expensive"? I don't think those words mean the same thing. "Overpriced" implies that they cost more than they're actually worth, while my sense is that there are pieces of equipment which cost a lot and are worth every penny.
These days when you consider buying Vacumn Tube equipment, the costs are high. I use the Outlaw/Anthem for Surround and I use the ARC/VAC for music.

Both ARC and VAC are high end Audio Manufactures so you get much better musical playback.

IMHO, in order to get the true musical SQ, you need to use vintage Tubes. Having said that, it is expensive to use tube gear. The cost of these two pieces is high yet I am lucky to have bought them used in great shape. The owner of VAC has welcomed me to the VAC family, esp. when he learned who I purchased the amp from.

With tubes, you do have to watch what you are doing and be careful. These is the reason why I have an amp and preamp form these firms that have great service records.

I do not like the sound of multi channel music, I prefer stereo. Movies and HD broadcasts sound great with surround. I am able to switch betwwen the two systems like this: I move the speakers cables from the Alons betwwen the VAC and Anthem amps and then IO switch the crossovers on the HSU subs, on and off.

I plan on installing a Marchand active crossover to give me better Sound for music.

More to come.
_________________________
Outlaw 1070, Anthem MCA5 II amp.
Sony Ps3
Alon 2 Mk2 Loudspeakers
HSU VTF-2 Mk2 sub x2
VAC PA100/100 Tube Amp
ARC SP16-L tube Preamp
Audio Note Dac 2.1 "B" signature
Furutech E-TP80,
Ascend HTM-200, 340C
Sony KDS-55A2020

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#17692 - 05/29/08 07:51 AM Re: Tubes Rule!
Lizard King Offline
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Registered: 08/30/06
Posts: 425
Loc: NY
Tubes really are the best way to bring on the great sound!
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Outlaw 1070, Anthem MCA5 II amp.
Sony Ps3
Alon 2 Mk2 Loudspeakers
HSU VTF-2 Mk2 sub x2
VAC PA100/100 Tube Amp
ARC SP16-L tube Preamp
Audio Note Dac 2.1 "B" signature
Furutech E-TP80,
Ascend HTM-200, 340C
Sony KDS-55A2020

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