Thanks Gonk. Perhaps I'll take the wait and see approach and continue using ps2/xbox. My CRT is not HD, it's an old 36" behemoth that takes a small army to move. Everyone keeps asking me why I don't upgrade, but I'm of the sit and wait forever type people. I've watched my brother-in-laws update their TV's two or three times always trying to get the latest and the greatest. I just can't do that, it's more fun to watch and laugh. This generation of HDTV's seems to have it together and right now I don't have anything HD, so the TV will be my first purchase. Then probably DVD player and eventually i'll upgrade the 990, but I'll wait and see what Outlaw comes out with.