is anybody using one of these?i was thinking about buying one but had a couple concerns.

one was the fixed bass management set at 80hz.

the other was the speaker setup,the manual says 'no test tone will be output through the sub'.does this mean you can't adjust the sub level?

i've never used the 5.1 direct on my 1050 but i'm assuming sub level is inoperable.

considering my 1050 does all bass management(to a now passive sub),this is a major concern.

i just figured i'd replace my dead dvd player with something current and be sacd/dvd-a capable but if i can't get one with decent bass management(and not spend major $$$$),i'll just go pick up another one for $60 at the pawn shop.

anybody have a recommendation?under $400 as this is just icing on the cake and not a necessity.

thanks,

joe

Cant you just set all your speakers to large on the 1920, and have it bypass its internal bass management and allow the 1050 to handle all that for you?

If so, this is the way I would go. Its what I do on my SACD/DVD-A player going into my 990.

-Rob

The 1050 doesn't have bass management for the 5.1 analog input - that was something that was pretty much unheard of when the 950 offered it. The 1050 can do bass management for all digital inputs and all stereo analog inputs but not for 5.1 input, and the Denon's bass management settings only apply to the 5.1 analog output (digital outputs and downmixed analog stereo outputs are not affected by the player's large/small settings).

gonk,i figured there was no bass management with the 5.1 in,but,do you set the levels with the denon or are the levels adjustable with the 1050?i assume it would be done with the denon,but with no test tone through the sub,do you set the sub manual(by ear with the source disc) or not at all?i don't have the denon yet because of this question.i like bass but not 0db all the time

It's been a while and I never used my 1050's 5.1 input, but I believe that the channel levels are also applied to the 5.1 input - that's how the 950 and 990 work. My standard advise for setting up a player like this is to leave the channel trim alone (0dB) at the player and do your calibration one time at the receiver.

that would work.

will let you know,probably after christmas

thank you again,sir.

well, i actually pulled out the hardcopy of the 1050 manual and there is no mention if the channel levels are active during 5.1 direct, if somebody knows for sure please let me know, if not i'll repost in the 1050 forum,or send tech. the question.

thanks

As I recall, the 950 did not explicitly say this either but it was confirmed in a thread or two. A question to Outlaw support may be the fastest way to get the definitive word.

I use a 1050 with a Sony DVD/SACD player and it seems to me that the 1050 keeps the channel levels set the same when using the Direct input. I've never had a problem with channel levels on the 1050 when using SACDs except for adjusting the subwoofer to taste. I would also recommend using the internal 1050 test tones for set-up on all channels except the subwoofer. The subwoofer test tone is just wrong and I think that's been documented before by Outlaw.

Concerning the subwoofer adjustment and the direct input, the subwoofer will only put out any signal being sent directly to it from the player. So with the Denon, you will get any signal below 80hz if you have the bass management on the player engaged. You then have the choice of adjusting the level using the subwoofer trim on the 1050.

Hope that helps...

xlent!

thank you jasonj,that answers all questions.

Separate point on the DVD-1920. Bought one in August and found it began locking up on DVDs, even brand-new ones. Lock-ups were inconsistent in terms of location/occurrence on the same DVD (i.e. not layer-change issues). Exchanged it in early November. Would have returned it entirely but wanted SACD/DVD-A. Even offered to pay to uppgrade to 2910 but dealer said it would not make a difference. So far the new machine has been okay, but I noticed today on an S&V board that someone else has had the same issue. Hope the heads-up is not too late!

Bob

nope,not too late,thanks!will hold off on dvd,i got a MAJOR itch for a jl 500/1 for the truck.and i'm about 3 hours labor away from being ready!ahhhh,been 8 months since i tore it out,i'm ready for BASS!