Can you do a test tone and set each speaker at a +-10. I can do this on my current receiver for all 5 speakers plus sub.

Thanks

I'm not entirely sure I know how to answer this question, but I'll do what I can. The 1050 does have test tones for each speaker (all six, plus the sub I think -- although since I never bought a sub when I upgraded speakers last year, I can't say for sure on the sub). You can use the test tones and an SPL meter to set speaker levels.

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Gonk

Yep, the 1050 does have test tones for all, including the sub. However, I found the sub test signal too low to be useful. It really pounded the $@!% out of things since, to make the test signal match, I had to crank it way up. You can imagine the results when you throw an LFE at a sub cranked too high.

Best bet is a test signal DVD and the trusty Radio Shack SPL meter. Otherwise, use the internal test signals for the six, and then calibrate the sub manually while in use.

Yep, just what Owl said!


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I just recently got my 1050. I noticed on mine, the test tones are quite low in volume. When I calibrate with a SPL meter I need to set the volume quite high; around 60 plus to get 75db. Then when I put on a dvd or cd I practically got blown away with very high sound volume. To listen to most music at 80 plus db I set the volume to 45 - 50 on the dial. For most DVDs a volume setting of 50 on the dial is very loud. The test tone volumes definitely don't match with the actual music volumes on the SPL meter on my 1050. Its not a problem, just a curiosity if others experience the same.
So far I'm lovin the 1050. Great sound.

I set my speaker & subwoofer trim levels with Avia or the THX test tones on Star Wars I. I checked the test tones on the 1050 & found that the subwoofer level is indicated too low. In other words, Avia tells me to use a lower (more attenuated) sub trim level vs. the 1050 test tones.

Can anyone offer an explanation and/or advice on this?

Thanks and regards
BB

The test tone volumes definitely don't match with the actual music volumes on the SPL meter on my 1050. Its not a problem, just a curiosity if others experience the same.

My 1050 is exactly the same. The only time I can listen to a music source past the 55-60 volume level is when the lady of the house steps out

Same for mine, test tones are much lower volume. I had it turned up fairly high when calibrating my sub.

My room is small. Seems like volume 60 was passing the 100 db mark frequently when I was playing around with it. That and all of my recessed lighting in both stairways rattles from the SVS, the cat runs and hides, etc

Hey thanks for the reply guys. I am very interested in the 1050 just not sure if I want to pass up Circle Surround and DPLII(I am looking at the Marantz 6200/7200 but there are alot of bad reveiws and some good ones. The only thing about the Marantz I don't like is setup is thru the TV.

The outlaw is right on the LCD display on the front correct?

Thanks again.

The Outlaw can be set up from the reciever or from the remote. All info is displayed on the Outlaw's led.
I found the Outlaw's natural setting very good for simulated 5.1, prefer this over DPL for tv watching. I don't know how it compares to the DPL2 though. I would guess Outlaw's Natural setting is similar to Circle Surround.
A very nice thing about the Outlaw over the Marantz is the option to set your sub crossover. The Marantz set crossover at 100hz is quite high, IMHO.
My decision for the Outlaw rather than the Marantz 6200 has been a good one, I believe. I was quite concerned with the many poor reviews of the Marantz. Outlaw reviews were much more positive.

Thanks for that info. Another concern is the remote...can it control anything since it is preprogrammed. I would like to get down to 2 if not 1.
I am leaning more towards the Outlaw now after reading reviews.

A question on the sub set up with this....my current receiver is just a +(-) 10 is this true with the outlaw or is it different settup.

Thanks for all the info.

I was able to use my 1050 remote to control the 1050, Mitsubishi TV, Panasonic VCR, Panasonic DVD, Harman/Kardon and Yamaha CD players, and a Scientific Atlanta digital cable box. It's been great. A friend gave me a Sony RM-AV2100 for my birthday last year, and I find myself going back to the 1050's remote for some things.

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Gonk

I also had no problem replacing a pile of remotes with the 1050's remote. Runs the guide, info etc for digital cable or satellite too.

For sub settings, you have the -10..+10 sub trim like you mentioned. Also can set sub crossover from 60hz to 150hz (think that is highest). Any speaker set to "small" will use the x-over frequency you set to determine what to dump to the sub through the LFE.

Well the remote sounds like it could get rid of some other remotes.

Another question...this receiver does not have A and B speaker outputs does it.

I kind of need that. I currently run another set of speakers downstairs that runs off of my current receiver.

I need to sell my current receiver because I already have one spare one that I use in the garage.

The a/b output is kind of important to me at the moment. This is another think I do like about the Marantz but all the reviews lists so many problems. Difficult decision though I am probably not upgrading until april/may.

any ideas will help again.

thanks

No A/B outs on the 1050.

Haven't decided what I will do when I finish fixing up the downstairs and get speakers down there (looks like I have a while though, heh).

I still need a big push.

I currently have a reciever with a/b speaker out and I use it(B for speakers in basement) because my second receiver I use in the garage.

No I don't plan on keeping all 3 I would sell one.

Why is this such a big decision?????????

I want a different brand besides sony, kenwood, pioneer.

I have looked at marantz(which I like but read bad reviews)
Read some reviews on NAD but have not been able to test in person yet.

Key things I currently don't have but would like in my next receiver:
DTS, PLII, circle surround, 6 channel stereo(does the outlaw have this), a/b speaker output. That is why I like the Marantz it offers all the above(sr7200 does).
I am interested in the outlaw 1050......ideas, opinions.....hands on experience with other receivers.

Thaks.

I hear you about having a choice over the popular brands Sony kenwood etc. I myself have been debating between the 1050 and a Harman Kardon AVR-520 an excellent receiver but it dose not have A/B ether. I made the decision to go with the 1050. If it is A/B that you need you can always purchase a speaker selector from Monstercable, Audio Source or any other brand depending on your need and price range.

[This message has been edited by Trigger (edited March 29, 2002).]

There is no DPL II in the 1050, only DPL. There is six-channel sound & DTS, though. (Only 5 channel DTS).

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matt@idsi.net

Move up to a 950/770, put the 1050 down stairs?

Charlie

Decisions..............For now I think I am going to check out NAD, Marantz again and wait for a bit since I know most companies will at least up to Pro Logic II.

I know Onkyo is coming out with TX-sr600 and I read an article that NAD is coming out with new ones soon also. Though usually all that stuff gets pushed back a couple more months.

I want this to be my last receiver for about 3-5 years if possible.

I wish I knew someone who owned an outlaw 1050 locally to me. that would be Green bay, WI. Go Pack.

Anyone know how to figure out what my current receiver sub output is set at. The only info it has in the pamphlet is output level 2 v/ impedance 2.2kohms.
Any ideas?

What are the settings for the 1050 for all speakers can you set them at diff frequency?

Still Looking at receivers. 4 on list include still the 1050, The new Pioneer vsx-d711(PL II), Onkyo TX-SR600, and still looking at the Marantz SR6200, 7200.
Any new advice would help. I really want to test that new onkyo but any store says maybe may is when they will get it in. I waited this long I still can wait.
I am going to go back and test the marantz again.
I am running acoustic research Hi Res series(AR4c, AR11 front, ar17 rears, ar112ps sub. Great sound for the price.
Any ideas suggestions. Why the 1050 say over the marantz or maybe the new onkyo.

cburbs: You're in Green Bay! I'm approx 45 miles from you (Shawano area).

I purchased the 1050, then took the advice of many in this forum, and brought a Marantz demo unit home over a weekend for comparison. Both are very good receivers. But sadly I returned my 1050 after three weeks of use. It is a very nice receiver, and I wouldn't discourage anyone from getting one - especially for the price. It packs a punch and sounds very nice for DVD. It is easy to set up and use, and the manual is excellent, particularly for a first time user of HT.

During my research, I had my eye on the Marantz SR5200 all along. But, for a few extra features, I decided to take home a SR7200 demo unit for a test run. Result: the SR7200 was worth the extra $150 for me. Circle Surround, PLII, and the learning remote is just what I need - but the manual assumes you know something about HT.

This is a great forum, and I learned a lot from everyone. The Outlaws are excellent to work with, and all the Gunslingers are understanding and helpful. Unfortunately, I'm one of the very few that found the 1050 not quite right for me.

You need to take the time to listen and compare for yourself, in your own environment. The time you take will be worth it in the long run. Good luck.