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#14853 - 04/29/05 03:42 PM Re: HE 2005 NYC
ScottH Offline
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Registered: 10/07/02
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Loc: NY, NY, USA
Here are my pictures from Outlaw\'s demo room at HE 2005. If we get too much traffic, I'll have to give Gonk the pictures to host.

Oh, and Outlaw, thanks for the ticket to the show.

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#14854 - 04/29/05 03:52 PM Re: HE 2005 NYC
gonk Offline
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Very cool, ScottH - thanks for taking the time to snap some pictures and share them with us.
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#14855 - 04/29/05 04:06 PM Re: HE 2005 NYC
sraber Offline
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Sorry, a case of mistaken identity.. I thought the picture of the insides of the 1070 were the insides of the 990. Oops.
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#14856 - 04/29/05 05:05 PM Re: HE 2005 NYC
ScottH Offline
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Registered: 10/07/02
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Loc: NY, NY, USA
They didn't have an open 990 on hand. But looking at the face plates and buttons on the 1070 and 990, they clearly have some things in common.

I got a picture of the back of the 990, but it's not as good as Outlaw\'s picture . I didn't get a picture of the back of the 1070--I'm not sure if there was one on a turntable or not.

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#14857 - 04/29/05 07:52 PM Re: HE 2005 NYC
arica9 Offline
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Registered: 09/03/03
Posts: 51
Loc: Bethel, CT, USA
Just got back from NYC myself (did get the chance to meet Pat and Wayne and put some faces to forum writers)and after reading through the posts of others don't know what I can add that is real substantive.

I do agree that the Outlaw room was a real grabber. Much bigger than last year. The equipment (Outlaw and the speaker set ups ) was really classy. The sound was beyond much I had ever had the chance to hear. That's a whole lotta speakers. One of the demo pieces was the whole plane crash scene from Flight of the Phoenix. I swear I was white knuckle flying myself by the end.

I was in the first session with just a few people but by the end, the line was already forming in the hall. Outlaw has a lot of recognition among the masses.I over heard one guy say. I just love that you're pissing off all the big guys.

I was really pleased to see and hear the RR2150 with smaller speakers, the LFM2 and a novel piece of gear (said Peter) called a turntable. This is one beautiful looking and sounding receiver. Scott says it is looking good to get to market in the near future. Not months and months was my impression.

The LFM2 is around 18 high X 24 deep X 12 wide. A great size for many rooms. At the price and size I bet alot of people will elect to run these in pairs easily.

I asked Peter what differences he felt there were in the sound quality of the 990 v 950. He said that they, including the beta folks, thought the 990 sounded smoother and less bright than the 950. And let me say, the 990 is BIG about the size of my 770 which makes the 950 look tiny. Looking over the actual back panel was a feast. The pics don't do it justice.

As reported the 790 is working through some heat issues and the 1070 is going back and forth with the debugging process of the software. I was a little surprised to hear that there are no more 950's. End of the story. So anybody that's upgrading should have even less a problem with the resale markets.

One last non Outlaw note. I listened to a demo with Mark Levinson (the legend himself)that completely blew me away. A new DAC of sorts that is designed to hook to a PC via USB and with proprietory software completely convert/modify the digital sound so it is breathtaking, listenable and sweetly analog sounding. Now here's the real kicker. We listened to Mp3 at lowest bit rates and they sounded phenominal. This product is known as Burwen Bobcat. Works only with Windows through Media player 10. No Apple (including iTunes) yet. Mark feels this is the biggest advance he's seen in 50 years in audio. He even uses his Sony laptop as his transport for CD's now. Did I already say here's the real kicker? I lied; anyone who knows Levinson or Red Rose is thinking "Yeah sure at what cost" As Mark said, "about half the price of most of the cables at the show. $1500.00. Watch out for more about this. Takes a current trend in music and makes it audiophile grade.

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#14858 - 04/30/05 10:02 PM Re: HE 2005 NYC
psklenar Offline
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Registered: 03/01/01
Posts: 479
Loc: Southern New England, USA
As promised Photos from the Outlaw Audio room at H.E. 2005 .

Others have already reported the highlights. The demo was quite impressive. I heard people talking about it throughout the show. I do believe I'm going to sell of my 950 and go with the 990 ... it's NICE. I'm also seriously considering selling off my 1050 (I wonder if anyone has an older one than I? smile ) and replacing it with a 2150 since I've been using it (the 1050) in stereo only mode anyhow.

The show as a whole was much smaller than in the past. Some of the big names weren't there (Sony & JVC come to mind), but there were some new ones (RCA/Thompson). There were also many old favorites - Aprion Speakers (very nice, sound like superb "bang for the buck" material!!), Cinepro & Silicon Optix put on an excellent shared demo that I felt rivaled the Outlaw's in terms of demo quality ... but the setup sure cost a whole heck of a lot more! smile

And David, it was a real pleasure to meet & visit with you!!

G'night,
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#14859 - 04/30/05 11:03 PM Re: HE 2005 NYC
JeffreyMercado Offline
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Registered: 10/31/01
Posts: 202
Loc: Queens Village
Well my take on the Outlaw demo was that the sound was incredibly immersive. I wish there had been a music 5.1 demo. Possibly Sting, or Diana Krall. My demo session was packed, and everybody seemed pretty impressed. The 990 is huge, and I asked why no second component out? Just figured people would be using one display, was the answer I got. I was also told the software for the 790 was still being worked on and possibly a five channel with the balanced connections in the future. Two torroidal transformers would be in the new 790 and package deals numbers were given out. They were as follows:990/770 $2698
990/755 $2298
990/7100 $1898
The other big news to me was that the Outlaw 1070 receiver would have the same cirrus chip the 49400 as the 990. I think the wattage was 65 watts per channel, and the price would be $899. With DVI switching, a very nice price. Peter Tribemans mantra for the demo was to debunk the myth that you need two systems. One for audio and one for video, I just wish the demo had something to show more to show that at least for the audio side. Maybe I will go there tomorrow with my new Outlaw CD case and bring my Diana Krall DVD to add to the demonstration. One last thing was that we should be contacted within the next 10 days. We being those that are on the reservation list.

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