Madisound has some as well. I am thinking of building a pair of in ceilings speakers using standard components and crossover with a sealed cabinet aimed downward at 45%, flush mounted. I would model the design after Triad in ceiling gold model. Good luck and enjoy your porch. See www.triadspeakers.com

I eneded up buying a pair of Boston Acoustics, (another industry gone overseas!). I'm using the Roku as a source. Works and sound wonderful! Jim

Since it just came up in another thread , how do you like the Roku?