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#13732 - 06/17/05 01:43 PM Re: Outlaw Model 1070
73Bruin Offline
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Registered: 01/01/03
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Isn't the key difference that the 1070 was an entirely new design unique to Outlaw, while the 990 is an upgraded clone of an already existing product? Obviously, there is a lot more that can go wrong in the first case.

And if we move to speculation, what do you think Outlaw would do if the 1070 actually sounds better than the 990 (as a pre-pro)?
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#13733 - 06/17/05 03:08 PM Re: Outlaw Model 1070
gonk Offline
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Registered: 03/21/01
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I think you have hit on the most likely reason for the length of the 1070's development period: it is a new design, unlike the 990 (which is a modification of an existing piece of hardware). This means there's more hardware to develop (including a amp section, which the 990 doesn't have at all), plus more software development to deal with (although, based on the P-965 manual and comments from a couple P-965 owners, it sounds like Outlaw had a fair bit of the P-965's code revised or re-written).

Ah, speculation... smile If the 1070 sounded better as a pre/pro, I suspect that Outlaw would happily sell a lot of 1070's.
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#13734 - 07/10/05 11:35 AM Re: Outlaw Model 1070
sparkyfan Offline
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Registered: 08/08/02
Posts: 35
Loc: Illinois
Aaaarrgghhh! The frustration..

Sure hope something breaks loose by the end of summer. I can't believe I have lived without a H/T receiver since last October.

There.. better now for awhile..
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#13735 - 07/10/05 07:12 PM Re: Outlaw Model 1070
dvdguru Offline
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Registered: 01/07/05
Posts: 40
Loc: Charlotte, NC
I've just about given up now. The new pioneer receivers WITH HDMI SWITCHING are coming out next month. I have the pioneer elite 59avi dvd player so I could hook it up using I-link to the new receiver and have hdmi switching as well. Choices, choices...
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#13736 - 07/10/05 09:54 PM Re: Outlaw Model 1070
polonius Offline
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Registered: 04/03/03
Posts: 18
tick-tock tick-tock

It's looking like September...

I went from an NAD T742 which was excellent at music and so-so at HT to a Cambridge Audio 540R which is also excellent at music but much more sensitive to the quality of the source and as a result a lot of my older CDs don't sound that great but newer ones sound better. HT is easily superior to the NAD though, tons more power. They're both very limited as far as features go. I'm wondering if anyone has any comments on NAD vs. CA vs Outlaw and if Outlaw would be a better compromise of trying to get good music and HT. I'm thinking of perhaps getting a new reciever after an HDTV purchase if *necessary* (AV Sync is my biggest concern), after all if I get an HDTV with two or more DVI/HDMI inputs do I really need switching in the receiver?

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#13737 - 07/12/05 01:23 PM Re: Outlaw Model 1070
ep_myers Offline
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Registered: 04/14/03
Posts: 10
Loc: New Ipswich, NH, USA
Quote:
Originally posted by polonius:
It's looking like September...
What year?
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#13738 - 07/14/05 09:36 PM Re: Outlaw Model 1070
polonius Offline
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Registered: 04/03/03
Posts: 18
Oh it'll be here this September, the big question is will the price be a hefty $899.

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#13739 - 07/15/05 09:00 PM Re: Outlaw Model 1070
jlib Offline
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Registered: 09/17/02
Posts: 31
Quote:
Originally posted by polonius:
I'm thinking of perhaps getting a new reciever after an HDTV purchase if *necessary* (AV Sync is my biggest concern)...
That is one feature that I need also. Is it known whether there will be a variable audio delay in the feature set?

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#13740 - 07/16/05 04:03 PM Re: Outlaw Model 1070
PodBoy Offline
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Registered: 05/09/05
Posts: 281
I think the Outlaws did say that the 1070 will have some sort of audio sync "group" delay. Since the 990 has it you have to imagine that they wouldn't release the 1070 without that important feature.

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