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#13104 - 05/27/04 01:55 AM Re: Outlaw HE Expo Newsletter (partial)
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Originally posted by Jeff Mackwood:
As I have posted previously, I'm all for good healthy debate and disagreement - anonymous or otherwise. But if someone feels so strongly about a point that they must resort to hurling insults to try to make it, unless they shed their cloak of anonymity while doing so, I would consider them a coward to their convictions.
Jeff Mackwood


how would one shed their cloak of anonymity? by typing their name at the end of their posts? posting their address, telephone number, and social security number?

ill start.

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#13105 - 05/27/04 01:59 AM Re: Outlaw HE Expo Newsletter (partial)
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heres my new more revealing signature....

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#13106 - 05/27/04 07:35 AM Re: Outlaw HE Expo Newsletter (partial)
JT Clark Offline
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Originally posted by Jeff Mackwood:
JT,

I was very careful in my choice of words.

I respect that people wish to remain anonymous. However I don't respect when they hide behind it while behaving in a disrespectful manner.

As I have posted previously, I'm all for good healthy debate and disagreement - anonymous or otherwise. But if someone feels so strongly about a point that they must resort to hurling insults to try to make it, unless they shed their cloak of anonymity while doing so, I would consider them a coward to their convictions.

That's how I feel in my daily life - and I see no reason why I should feel any different when I'm in a forum such as this.

But I certainly meant no disrespect to anyone who simply wants to remain anonymous.

Jeff Mackwood


Exactly. I too can't stand the cowards who throw nasty insults around because they think they can't be seen.

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#13107 - 05/27/04 08:00 AM Re: Outlaw HE Expo Newsletter (partial)
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an interesting debate you two are having. i say interesting because one of the two forums where things got the most out of hand (both during the 1050 beta & release and later during the 950 beta & release) is a forum that requires a "real" name.

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#13108 - 05/27/04 08:35 AM Re: Outlaw HE Expo Newsletter (partial)
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Was that on this forum? I don't remember that. I wasn't here for the 1050 beta & release, but I was here for the 950. Was that just for the beta testers or for everyone involved in the discussions?

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#13109 - 05/27/04 08:50 AM Re: Outlaw HE Expo Newsletter (partial)
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JT,

no, the worst of the "attack threads" were primarily over on the two largest AV forums, one of which requires a "real name" for your screen name.

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#13110 - 05/27/04 09:38 AM Re: Outlaw HE Expo Newsletter (partial)
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Originally posted by curegeorg:
i am interested to see if the outlaws put multiroom in the 1070 seeing as they asked us to help product plan. the results from that were mixed i guess, with a slight unforunate edge to dont have it... does anyone know?


Judging from the pictures of the rear panel, I would guess that they decided not to include it.

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#13111 - 05/27/04 10:28 AM Re: Outlaw HE Expo Newsletter (partial)
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Originally posted by curegeorg:
how would one shed their cloak of anonymity?...


The point that Jeff is making is quite true -- the ability to hide behind a keyboard and modem brings out the worst in a lot of people. Even when they use their real names (as is the case on HTF), people can use the facelessness of the internet to say things and act in a manner that would not happen face to face.

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#13112 - 05/27/04 11:24 AM Re: Outlaw HE Expo Newsletter (partial)
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well i think that is part of the fun, yes i would be a little more polite in person, however i woudl still be thinking what i am saying. and just word it a little more nicely. everyone should appreciate honesty.
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#13113 - 05/27/04 11:37 AM Re: Outlaw HE Expo Newsletter (partial)
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But that's not (specifically) the issue that Jeff was originally addressing, although it could be applied to that as well. Jeff was talking about numerous threads and individuals, primarily on other forums, who used the Internet as a platform for rudeness and obnoxiousness of a very accelerated degree.

Speaking for myself, I speak (type) the same online as I would face to face -- the only difference is that I answer to "Jim" in person rather than "gonk". That's not to say that there's anything wrong with being a bit more open and vocal online than in person, just my personal style.

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