CD Recorder

I am interested in getting a cd recorder to transfer my album collection to cd. After my albums have been recorded I want to use it as my primary cd player.Quality of sound is most important. What I've been considering are the Yamaha CDR HD 1300/1500, Denon CDR W1500, and HHB CDR830. Suggestions and information are greatly apprectiated. Thanks

Every since I had two Yamaha's slowly die over time, and in the process create hundreds of coasters, I decided I would never buy a Yamaha again. But then, I'm Mean.

I have used the HHB before and it works fine. I would also recommend a good record cleaner to remove any dirt before transfer for the best possible sound quality.

Here's my question: Why not use a computer?

You can load your records into a computer using any number of interfaces. Just take the output from your phono preamp and all you need is a line input on the computer interface.

Once your audio is in the computer, there are a ton of programs out there that will allow you to edit the tracks as neccesary and process for any pops and clicks. Depending on your computer platform of choice, options for software start from free on up. Here's an inexpensive Mac option:

http://www.bias-inc.com/products/soundsoap/

Hope that helps...

Going to a computer is a good idea - I've done that in the past with some cassette tapes. Not only can you clean up the audio, you can also edit it as needed and even include CD text when you but CD-R's. Obviously you'll need a phono pre-amp, as Jason J mentions, but unless you've already got a receiver with a phono input you'd need one anyway (and a standalone phono pre would probably give better results than most receiver's phono input). This will also let you select a primary CD player for its performance with CD playback. Will you be using the player's analog output, or will you use it sole as a digital transport and use your receiver's DAC?

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My reason for not going with a PC is the amount of time it takes to edit each record. I tried that route with some cassettes and for me the benefit from the editing (removing noise, getting rid of bad sections) was just not worth the time. I've recorded a few cassettes directly to a new DVD/CD recorder and have been very satisfied with the ease and quality of the process. If recording my vinyl works as well as recording my cassette tapes, I'll be perfectly happy.

Having a real DVD/CD recorder in the system makes the process work a lot more easily. The CDs it produces play just fine on my separate, higher quality DVD/CD player. (If I had golden ears I might do it differently but these 60-year-old ears were never golden at their best!) My recorder is about a month old and I will begin recording my vinyl when I finally get around to getting a supply of record cleaning fluid so I can get the best out of them. If anyone is curious, I'll be happy to describe my results.

Mike
I have 100 or so vinyl that have been in boxes for a while. No place to put them. This sounds like a great idea. How did the transfer to CD work out. What type of disc to you need to use for the best sound you can get.
Brad

I just now saw this post, but I'll tell you anyway. I use an ALESIS ML9600 Masterlink for making CDs. The last thing I want is to sit at the computer more than I do now !!!!

Also you can make 14 playlists. Make tracks. Move audio files between playlists and change their order in any given playlist. Then you tell it to make the CD. Oh I forgot. The intial recording is on a hard drive, on which there is 42 hours of time...more than I need but that's OK. Hard-drive CD recorder is best way.

So when you're ready to burn you tell it to. You can burn REDBOOK (44.1 @ 16 bit all the way up to 24 bit 96kHz, or the so-called "CD24". I don't use that function, becuase I would need to play it back on the Masterlink. That format is for giving to master studios for production, I guess, unless they were using DSD 1-bit.192 kHz !!!

I play back on Tascam CD01U (a 1 rack-unit-high player) or the Sony DVD 400 disc changer...or the car etc etc.

My use for making the CD's is to transpose from old recordings we did in the 1970s-90s.
For this recorder visit
http://www.alesis.com/product.php?id=4

I just ordered the Alesis. I've seen them advertised for a few years now & the price is pretty reasonable at this point. I'll let you know how it goes. I really like the idea of being able to "preserve" stuff at greater than CD bitwidths/sampling rates. The other nice thing (from their info) is they can use data disks and you do not need the special audio blanks that some other recorders require.

Couple more points:
(1) There are 52 hours of HD space on the ML9600 at redbook spec. So if you wanted to you could make programs. I don't but you could.

(2) There is a company making mods (Alesis tech support could tell you details) whereby additional HDs can be added, outboarded. I'm sure this voids the warranty, but if that's what you need....

(3) Better solution for long-term archiving and making programs, and.or copying etc is the ALESIS HD24 or HD24XR. Both are HD recorders, which will default to 24 tracks, not necessary for my uses, but you can tell it "no, I want 2 tracks" or whatever in between like 6-8 etc. etc. The HD24 will do up to 48 KHz smapling. The XR will do up to 96 KHz. You can edit, move, assign screen names, create projects into which you can place various albums. The drives are cheap and sit in "caddies" which are removable and store in a "library-type" case. Here's the link:

Link to HD24 HD24XR

I'll try (first time) to post a pic. Here goes:

You can visit their site and look at their FAQs
If you want to call me or vice versa send me a private message.

...and I don't work for them

One more thing I forgot:
The guys above are right about the computer and doing various editing etc. I spend too much time at the computer anyway and like to play with audio toys

Also: if you wish to edit there are non computer-based means of editing, as in mixers, and whatever. My archiving of old material that we recorded years ago is simply to copy because we did it right the first time

I and my friends and colleagues, having done this for 30 or so years (some of us more) could always make a better tape (which is what we used in the old days) of music than one could buy on CD. Still that way. It's not that we record better . We use the same high-quality mics and good technic, and are no better than the studios.
We and the studios produce master tape or recording but we don;t change it. Somehow and for some reason, which I;ve never understood, "THEY" change it, compress it, change the eq, limit, gate or whatever, and we dont/ So we just listen to the original "master". Nice when you can.

Will be glad to discuss off-forum. Send private email. Happy recording! Happy listening on this great outlaw eqpt.

Here's a pic of the ALESIS MASTERLINK ML9600


..and here's a link to the site
Masterlink ML9600
...AND REMEMBER: I don't work for them....