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#76160 - 05/21/07 09:27 PM Building a Music Server (cross post)
Videodrome Offline
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Registered: 09/11/06
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I noticed it’s been almost 2 months since my last post. Though I doubt any of my fellow Outlaws have been looking for me on the back of a milk carton, I thought I would share a couple of things going on in my own personal corner of the HT / stereo world that may be of interest to you. Before I begin, let it be known I have no affiliation with any of the products or retailers described below.

Building a Music Server: I’m not sure how many of you have heard about or use a product called a “Squeezebox,” but I’ve got to tell you, this is one of the slickest devices I’ve ever owned and I think is going to really revolutionize my system. Basically, this little device (about the size of a table top digital alarm clock) wirelessly streams Internet radio and/or music you’ve ripped to your PC right to your sound system. What’s great about the SB for us audio nuts, is that you can use a lossless compression format (I’m using FLAC (Free Lossless Audio Codec)) and stream pure CD quality music over your WiFi. You can go with MP3 too, if you like; but the FLAC format sounds amazing and the software is open source, so it won’t cost you a penny. Right now, I’m beginning the long, arduous process of ripping my CDs to the PC. At this point, I’m already seeing the need for some sort of outboard, high speed CD/DVD drive and an external USB hard drive for storage. When it’s all said and done, I’ll have a music server that I can stream to my main system, or if I add other SB’s, to other systems in the house. I’m obviously a neophyte at this, so if there’s anyone out there who has built a music sever that can share their own personal experiences that may spare me some pain and suffering (and $), please chime in.

Outboard DAC: I think I mentioned in a previous post that there is a burgeoning market of bang-for-the-buck Chinese audiophile DACs. Wel,l after some lengthy research on the web, I finally decided upon the Musiland MD-10 and subsequently ordered one from Pacific Valve & Electric. It’s only been in my system less than a week, so I’m still evaluating it, but so far I am pretty darned impressed. It’s definitely an improvement over my Cambridge Audio Azur 640C. And with 4 digital inputs (Toslink, USB, RCA and BNC), I can run both the digital out of the Squeezebox and the Cambridge to it, so I can stack two digital sources on the CD input of my 970. One further thing that’s really slick about this DAC is that it has selectable bit depth: 16, 20 and 24 bit. Sixteen bit is great for strident recordings or when you want a more vinyl-like sound; 24 bit really ekes out every bit (pun intended) of detail and renders tremendous pinpoint imaging from good recordings.

I’m not sure the Musiland DAC would be of much interest to many Outlaws, especially those who own the 990 or have a really great CD player. But seeing as how the unit is tied to the Squeezebox in my system, I threw it out there for public consumption. That aside, I definitely think most of you would really, really dig the Squeezebox.

(cross posted in System Saloon)
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#76161 - 06/01/07 09:40 PM Re: Building a Music Server (cross post)
dvenardos Offline
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Registered: 02/22/05
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Loc: Thousand Oaks, Ca
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At this point, I’m already seeing the need for some sort of outboard, high speed CD/DVD drive and an external USB hard drive for storage.
Instead of an external USB hard drive you might want to look at setting up an inexpensive linux server. You can put 2 500GB SATA drives in this low power server. Terminator C3

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#76162 - 06/03/07 11:50 PM Re: Building a Music Server (cross post)
Ranger1000 Offline
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Registered: 07/31/05
Posts: 49
Loc: Minnesota
Videodrome, I am very interested in using the squeezebox and flac. What tool do you use to copy your CDs to flac files?

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#76163 - 06/04/07 05:44 AM Re: Building a Music Server (cross post)
dvenardos Offline
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Registered: 02/22/05
Posts: 97
Loc: Thousand Oaks, Ca
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What tool do you use to copy your CDs to flac files?
From my research this program is the standard Exact Audio Copy

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#76164 - 06/04/07 03:27 PM Re: Building a Music Server (cross post)
Videodrome Offline
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I am also using Exact Audio Copy in conjunction with AccurateRip. AccurateRip compares your rip with others in their database for possible errors.

dvenardos, I will look at that server, thanks!
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McCormack DNA-125 (mains), Emotiva LPA-1 (surrounds)
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Squeezebox -> Behringer SRC2496 -> Musiland MD10 DAC
Sota Sapphire; Marantz 10B;
Video: Hitachi 42HDS52A; Oppo 971H
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#76165 - 06/06/07 05:28 PM Re: Building a Music Server (cross post)
palmer Offline
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Registered: 05/13/01
Posts: 121
Loc: South San Francisco, CA USA
videodrome,

Digital music distribution is awesome, you're going to have a lot of fun with it.

For a file server, I found this company: www.open-e.com They provide hardened, linux-based file server software on either a USB or IDE flash module. Very easy to install and use.

I'm using Sonos to distribute digital music throughout my home; seven zones, two controllers, works with internet radio, Rhapsody and Pandora, incredibly easy to set up and use.

I also use Exact Audio Copy and AccurateRip. I'm about 75% done ripping my CD's(150GB so far). All I have to do after that's done is edit the tags and download album art, which will probably take longer than the ripping.

Good luck and have fun,
Tony.
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#76166 - 06/06/07 05:59 PM Re: Building a Music Server (cross post)
Videodrome Offline
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Registered: 09/11/06
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Loc: Fairfax Station, VA
Thanks for the info' palmer. Yeah, I'm having fun with this too!

If you haven't already encountered these products, MP3Tag is a good tag editor (and it's open source). And I just downloaded Album Art Aggreagtor yesterday, which will search your music folders and find any corresponding album art.

Best,

- Jim
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Outlaw 970
McCormack DNA-125 (mains), Emotiva LPA-1 (surrounds)
Quad 11L (F&C) Wharfedale (R) LFM1 (Sub) w/ SMS-1
Squeezebox -> Behringer SRC2496 -> Musiland MD10 DAC
Sota Sapphire; Marantz 10B;
Video: Hitachi 42HDS52A; Oppo 971H
System Pics

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#76167 - 06/06/07 09:29 PM Re: Building a Music Server (cross post)
Ritz Offline
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Registered: 07/03/05
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The best "out of the box" solution I've seen so far is the Squeezebox or their new (and more expensive) Transporter plus any big chunk of storage (Windows/OSX/Linux) you can throw at the problem. The storage doesn't have to be near the stereo as the squeezebox or transporter has ethernet and WIFI connectivity.

http://www.slimdevices.com/

So I'm on board with you. I don't have one yet, but it's a planned upgrade.

Best,
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#76168 - 06/17/07 03:44 PM Re: Building a Music Server (cross post)
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I have a couple of newbie type question with respect to devices like the squeezebox.

Does it need to have a PC up and actively streaming music to it or can it pull music from a network attached storage device? Based on what I saw on the slimdevices, website it would appear to be latter.

What advantage does a squeezebox have outside of size over a media-center type PC? Clearly the media center PC could also stream video (although I have no clue as to what type of transmission rate you would need to do this).
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#76169 - 06/18/07 01:32 PM Re: Building a Music Server (cross post)
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The Squeezebox is like a number of other similar devices in that it requires a PC to serve it files. A HTPC can offer more flexibility (both audio and video, DVD playback, and so forth), but it involves putting a potentially noisy unit in the equipment rack and can be a bit more difficult to set up. Devices like the SqueezeBox (or AppleTV and XBoxes, which are among some of the media client devices that support video as well as audio) allow you to shift everything except a (typically) quiet device. They can also be easier to set up.
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