1070 and speakers?

Hello all fellow Outlaws!!!!

I am hoping soon to be buying a 1070 for my listening pleasure. I am thinking of using Ascend 340 Mains or the Alon II Mk2 speakers at first, maybe the HSU stf-2 or Outlaw lfm-2 sub soon after.

Does anyone know which speakers sound best with this 1070? Can this receiver sound good enough to not use an amp with preamp?

Looking forward to your answers.

I'm in the camp that doesn't believe in matching speakers to electronics. The sonic differences between speakers is much, much greater than that between electronics, so choose the speakers that sound best to you and don't worry how they'll sound with the 1070 or any other receiver, preamp, or amp. Speakers and room acoustics, that's the key. But that's just my opinion (and it applies to electronics that are comparable in price).

--Chuck

I agree with cvinfig that the most important step is to find speakers that you like. The most important interaction between speaker and electronics is making the receiver's amps can drive those speakers. The Ascend 340's are reasonably efficient 8-ohm speakers, so the 1070 should handle them fine. Specs on the Alon are a bit harder to come by - the Acarian site is currently under construction, but I did find some specs here . Again, it's an 8-ohm speaker, although it's slightly less efficient than the Ascend 340.

Gonk and Cvinfig,

Thanks so much for replying to my request. Gonk, you always write back and I love that. The link you sent is for a small pair of Book shelf speakers I think. My buddy has a pair of the Alon II Mk2 and with his Audio Research SP6 preamp and the VTL compact 100 mono block Tube amps, the sound is AWESOME.

Is the sound of the 1070 good enough for me not to think about using an amp and preamp in your opionon?

I really like my mirage+Outlaw union
movies sound great...
and music in plain stereo is just awesome...

so does B&W dm601 s3 for left and right and rear l/r channels, and B&W lcr60 s3 for center channel...and hsu vtf-2 mk 2 for sub...sound great too especially those hd channel broadcast in sourround sound..from dish(Voom Networks).

forgot to add this info as well...while I was at hsu reaearch to purchase my sub...one of the tech guy told me that dr. hsu design sub for outlaw...

You are exactly right - Outlaw worked with Hsu on all three of their subs.

I have several questions. Is the only difference between the 7700 and the 7500 two channels of power? Also, comparing the 1070 to the 990/7700 combination, is the sound and performance so much superior as to warrant the expense from $1000 to $3000? Lastly, are any new models coming down the pipeline shortly and should I wait or grab the 990/7700 now? Thank you in advance.

Yes, the only difference between the 7700 and 7500 is the 7700's two extra amp channels.

You will certainly here a difference between the 1070 and the 990/7700. How much will depend in part on your speakers (more efficient speakers will have less need for the extra power, which will determine just how much difference the separate amp makes). Whether that difference is worth $2000 is a matter of some debate, with no right answer. I really love the sound of my 990/7500 setup (with Model 200's driving side surrounds) and would probably have a hard time accepting the change stepping down to a 1070 would represent, but I still remember how nice my old 1050 sounded - once you reach the level of a 990/7700 you are well into the realm where each upgrade is a matter of diminishing returns.

We have no word on upcoming products, but I'd expect the next generation to include HDMI v1.3, which will take some time for Outlaw to include - late summer would seem to be the absolute earliest, and even that is probably a stretch. Granted, that's just me guessing, but it's the best guess I can make...

Gonk, thanks for the good advice as always. I spoke with Steve today and after asking his advice about many different aspects of the combo, I ordered the 990/7700 with xlr cables. I see that you have paradigm speakers. Are you happy with them and what model might you consider if you were upgrading? I currently have the mini monitors for the l/r and the cc330 for the center channel with the ps1000 sub. I learned today that the tuner will not automatically memorize the stations. It is a typo in the manual for the 1070.

I'm very happy with the Paradigm Studios. I'm not sure what I'd upgrade to - hadn't considered it.

I am thinking about buying the 1070 receiver since my old receiver has blown up. I would like to know if this receiver will run well with my 600 series B&W speakers. Also I have a Definitive Technology 15" subwoofer (1500TL +)

From a brief glance at the specs of some of the B&W 600 series, I'd expect the 1070 to work fine. What receiver were you driving them with?

Gonk: I was using a Sony STR50ES receiver.

Specs on the 50ES are hard to come by, but I'd expect the 1070 to have comparable power.

Hi, the speakers I want to use have a sensitiviy of 87db and my room wil be 10ft (w) * 15 ft (l) * 7 ft (h).

Do you think the 1070 can handle that , esp. if I use a powerd sub?

Liz

Liz: I know that the person who bought me my 1070 matched it to the speakers I already owned (my B&W's). They're rated at a sensitivity 90dB and the purchaser's opinion was that the 1070 was practically "made" for my speakers. He was right. My room size is larger than yours (14ftWide*16ftLength*7ftHigh) and the 1070 absolutely powers my setup w/ amazing clarity and precision. Band of Brothers artillery barrage scenes...what...you might as well have BEEN in Bastoge.

Thanks RedsinpA. Looks like i wil go for my friends Alon II Mk2 as they are true Audiophile speakers whith a 87db sensitivity. In my listening area, part of a larger room, I should be able to power them up without worry. I am also hoping to one day use a powered Sub, HSU stf-2 or Vtf-2 so that should free up some extra kick. Also, I plan on getting a 3930ci Denon dVD player and having it modified with a discrete output stage that I am told can drive a set of headphones!